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 Proton: we’re all about privacy!! 

Also proton: import all of your personally identifiable info from gmail. 

🤦‍♂️ 
 #MIT 
 How do you think we could better facilitate and teach users about self hosting? This is the only real privacy option, but the barrier to entry is so damn high for most users... 
 I don't think it is, not anymore.
I think the main barrier to entry at this point in time, is the misconception of necessary effort.

If we present it as a step-by-step what needs to be done, they may say it's too hard or too much. 
If we present it as an afternoon-project, they may be more open to it.

That being said, in general, people are lazy even when it comes to their own welfare in the privacy context, but I think there's something in how it's framed that's worth exploiting. 

As an example, you can spin your own full-fledged cloud service in a couple hours at this point in time:
- Get some hardware (raspi (or similar), old laptop, PC etc)
- Change a couple lines in a docker-compose file
- Run a single command
- Final Setup via the webpage

Based on the four steps above, if someone can't spend a half hour understand each of those steps, then I can't say they actually WANT to protect themselves.

You also have all-in-one setups like Start9OS that allow you to then install the apps via a marketplace. 
 I think you need guided setup like umbrel. 
 Isn't Umbrel essentially just an app store that runs everything via containers? 
 Now do Signal 😂 
 What about it? I don’t use it. 
 All about privacy and uses phone # as identifier 🤡 
 I was tempted to get signal, is there a better alternative? I can’t seem to get people to use SimpleX so I’m stuck on telegram 
 https://yasha.substack.com/p/signal-is-a-government-op-85e 
 I wonder what @ODELL thinks about that 
 Well, this sucks. Especially since I can't tell how credible this is.
Now there'll be permanent lingering doubt  
 That's always the problem.
Stupid normies refusing to use private alternatives no matter how easy they are.
This is the main reason UK's new law to bypass E2EE would be effective 🤦‍♂️ 
 That law is basically DOA, proposed and voted on by people who don’t even understand the basics of what they’re talking about.

They can pass it but it simply wouldn’t work without being completely gutted by the amount of necessary exceptions that would have to be added. 
 From my underatanding, it's effective because All it has to do is force Operating Systems to scan data on personal devices before encryption. So, Microsoft (Windows), Apple (iOS & macOS) and Google (Android w/GMS) would comply.
Unless most people switch to small niche OS (e.g. niche Linux Distros or De-googled Android) that can't be forced to follow that law. 
 Well luckily the bill has been pulled because companies said the tech doesn’t exist to scan for illegal material without compromising privacy, and therefore threatened to remove products from the UK market.

I’d love to see how our current government would cope without WhatsApp 😂 
 I understand signal uses your phone number so they could tell who talks to who.
Do you think it is private? 
 Been using it for a while now! No going back to gmail!