nostr:npub1ju9twlemhqcy89vstf89k0kyzethk4r5kqktyt4jwxrnhw3ncq3qugwspp I personally experience REM in hypnosis and meditation 

I recommend the book, "the mind illuminated" as a decent way to get into meditation. lucid dreaming is a bit easier -- kind of like training wheels -- btw, ever tried DXM or ketamine?