Imagine a world where we only had appstores for software distribution, where you need permission to ship software to your users. We’re moving toward this and it’s pretty sad.


First post I see gets the sats and today this was it


Thank you sir *tips fedora*


I'm sure we will find a way to fight it


Agreed.


The saddest part is that people are doing it to themselves. They have power, and options now. But they walk toward the app stores with their mouths hanging open on the way to Walmart


The EU actually forces Apple to allow 3rd party app stores at least.


Very


Of course


Everything trends to the marginal cost of production, so we’re headed towards all software is free and written by AI.


Perhaps you should create a progressive web App Store…


We? That's literally what apple did it's whole life. I can install whatever the hell I want on my mod Android.
I don't see why people expect different actions from Apple. You can't move the mountain...


More than sad. Dystopian AF.


Where can we side load Damus?


More news is coming out on iOS side loading. It’s seems EU is pushing hard for it.

But of course, even if EU enforces, this doesn’t mean Apple has to comply on all regions.


App stores in Linux and other FOSS platforms are pretty free. It'll be easier for those to compete with the advent of RISC V mobile and desktop systems too, and people discussing and showing each other alternatives.


the web sucks as a platform to build apps


State violence is not the answer. Here they did something decent, but more often than not, the pendulum swings the other way.
On a principled basis, Apple should be able to do whatever they want and users should vote with their wallets.
All Apple consumers are both guilty and have the solution in their hands.


Stop enabling them.


That’s annoying. I wish there was a way to avoid the App Store altogether.


It seems like this is pretty much where we’re at now, with the exception of some nerds


the web sucks and so does apple, these are not mutually exclusive


It very arguably does. I’ve not seen a web app that wouldn’t have been better as a native one.


A choice was made despite the obvious cons


License to operate, as thieving cunts arguing freedom is embarrassing, Big Bro
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This is my point. Never had these permissioned appstores when i was growing up. Things are regressing, hopefully it’s not going to get worse.


iOS 17.2 beta code hints that Apple might be gearing up to let users easily install apps from sources other than the App Store on their iOS devices🤘


Agree it can look dire at times. But I’m confident that over time, the free market & FOSS will win.  Plus the EU will force Apple to allow side loaded iOS apps by 2024 😂


Uncertain whether that implies anything but franchise rules, with maintained control.
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Does this have to do with the EU?


Hopefully, this change is just the beginning, and we'll see more flexibility in the future.


Imagine a world where we only had appstores for software distribution, where you need permission to ship software to your users. We’re moving toward this and it’s pretty sad.


Digital markets act (DMA) of the EU  establishes specific responsibilities for "gatekeepers" to promote fairness and openness in digital markets.


I agree


PWAs FTW


Not an argument


Its not an argument its a fact


Debian has an AppStore and it's not a problem. They manage quality and security just fine. It's the locked monopoly choke point AppStore that's bad.


Well Google chrome is trying its best to make sure we can't make good web apps  in case the lose ads. .  I feel a decade of devs pushing chrome over firefox because of a few missing features has a lot to answer for.    Sometimes less is more.


Huge…


Every nostr app I have used on desktop web browser is significantly better than either android or ios equivilent app.  I also find this is true for new apps eg The Guardian.


I picture a future where you go on netflix and describe what kind of film you would like to watch and AI makes it for you in real time.  Netflix is already funding AI companies to see if they can write scripts (and frankly I'm not sure that can be worse than  most of what Netflix produces  now)


And we appreciate you fighting the good fight 🙏


The alternative is even worse: unelected corporations having a monopoly if  not on state violence then on technological, psychological manipulation and control of populations, as we have seen facebook, google and amazon do when EU doesn't step in. Voting with wallets has its limits when the only place left to buy essential things is corporate supermarkets and tech companies.  Where are you going to get your computer chips from when only 2 companies sell them ?


their plans are fiat bro. in the end they will all be MySpace.


Monopolies arise mainly due to State support and friction given to potential competition due to regulatory compliance.
Big Tech would definitely not exist without that, at least not at today's scale.


Yes and your phone doesn’t have apps, you just tell it what you want and it generates an answer or a game real time.


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Too bad the web is terrible and insecure


They want it all permissioned, and they want us to pay subscriptions to use it.


wait.... what? Aren't we doing the exact opposit of that?


Pro-tip: Download an APK from anywhere and just click to install it.


Microsoft, apple, google are responsible with their monopoly practices. Capitalism is simply a transition step to monopolism.


Do not feed the permissioned app stores

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Imagine a world where we only had appstores for software distribution, where you need permission to ship software to your users. We’re moving toward this and it’s pretty sad.


Watching the power structures grapple with FOSSy type stuff is disappointing and disheartening. They're so afraid of not having control.


We'll always find a way around it


Also not an argument. Where it excels is that there is no gatekeeper.

Apple is one of the worst gatekeepers, middleman, skimmer


I’m pretty sure this is due to antitrust/legal actions against them.

Their hand was forced.

Good news for us, regardless.