Remember nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj, the originator of the Primal cEnSoRsHiP and ShAdOwBaNnInG narrative?

Check out his latest work below. He took the time to create a fake Primal content advisory. Even put in the effort with the border gradient to make it look real. Then he got nostr:npub1ezw0xm0w52rd4yfdg9zlw9qvwdy46alzelklkefptrd203m37tuq4djmeg to post this and boosted to create outrage. Kinda similar playbook as the original attack a couple of months ago.

The sad part is that many people take him seriously. We got some questions yesterday, so I’ll repeat again here. The image below is 100% FAKE. Primal does not display content advisories.

As for nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj, dude are you okay? Seriously concerned for you. You are a talented developer, why waste your cycles on such negativity? Find something productive to work on. This is Nostr; that level of hate does not vibe here. Pura vida. 💜☀🫂

https://m.primal.net/HPKR.jpg


I don’t get this behavior at all. What’s the point? If there’s some beef, talk directly to the devs - we are a small group right now and really don’t need any extra drama.


Gonna need to use a lot Primal for now on 🤙🍵


💯💯💯 it’s such a waste of everyone’s time.

Really disappointing bullshit (again!) from nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj


Oh, so nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj created this as a way to bring to people’s attention the way nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg filters the trending list?


You didn’t feel comfortable calling out nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj directly in the talk yesterday. I see this from a different angle. It reminds me of chaos engineering in cloud that you purposefully destroy nodes to test reliability of infrastructure. It has its value.

Of course, I understand that it’s an unpleasant experience for primal folks and more communication should happen.


I disagree, we need this drama, it's entertaining AF.


You dog! 😂


I'm maybe just speaking for myself but I don't come here just see people happy, getting along, saying GM. I already have that irl.

I come here smelling for blood and I have to say today I'm not leaving disappointed.
nostr:nevent1qqsfmtny2yc84wqc0n9dm3hc5vtwyq05732gywmrj32n2anf3y5vvwspvemhxue69uhkv6tvw3jhytnwdaehgu3wwa5kuef0dec82c33xeerqarv8psnxwtgdp3hyctsvycrxdf489uxz6rndfck5drnxpunvapjdc6kwurydvmrga3sxe48gem9ddckg6m6x4cxc0mzwfhkzerrv9ehg0t5wf6k2q3q6c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9qxpqqqqqqz29e48h


NO nostr client should be shadowbannning or  censoring ANYONE.


*deep sigh*

I feel Semi's intent here is good, but the execution is bad. He is correct, that Onyx is unable to trend on Primal because of Primal's filters, right? This warning message may not show to Onyx, but that doesn't negate the fact that these terms do apply to her, right?

Is it a dick move to create this fake image? Yes. Absolutely! Is it a dick move to remind people that this is actually happening? No.

Again, I think the execution is bad here
Let's fix that.

Hey nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr my man. If a user such as Onyx always uses the NSFW hashtag on their more risque images, would that help to remove them from being filtered from trending? Hmm. I'll answer this myself, probably not, because she could accidentally forget once and that would slip through the filter. So, that's not a good fix.

What about ML? At some point in the future when time and budgets permits, would you consider using ML to tag and filter images? If the ML determines it's risque or NSFW image, don't trend it. I'm sure it's not hard to train a model to look for nudes or lots of skin. Thoughts?

Lastly, no one has a perfect answer for every issue. We're all trying to make Nostr the best that we can. Some of us just build and communicate differently.

I do wish that Semi spent a little more time building all that we've discussed instead of spending his energy on this.

Anyways. Let's go us. Bullish on all of us. Fuck yeah Nostr.

🤙🏻🫂💜


Maybe during our Nostr bear market to keep us entertained 😂 But this is fucking #NostrNovember dammit! We don't need this now.


I want to not see certain content. But I want to be the person who controls it. I once saw a picture two decapitated female heads in global, posted by someone who said they hate women. No thank you.


That said, I’d still prefer stuff I don’t like (and ideally can’t see without clicking a button) to be in the trending list if it really is trending


yes

pic was a meme depicting reality


I appreciate the love in, it’s a nice change from Xitter and Reddit to see people who aren’t constantly outraged, but part of the appeal of #nostr to me is this shit is supposed to be Wild West and people can push boundaries - I may or may not agree with where they put those boundaries, but I don’t get to decide where they are for everyone else and nobody gets to decide for me.


I have no idea what’s going on. I stand with nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj


Free nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj


but how is it a dick move? it perfectly explains the situation, doesnt it?.. some ppl even try to portray it as "next level psycho shit".. makes no sense to me at all


Remember nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj, the originator of the Primal cEnSoRsHiP and ShAdOwBaNnInG narrative?

Check out his latest work below. He took the time to create a fake Primal content advisory. Even put in the effort with the border gradient to make it look real. Then he got nostr:npub1ezw0xm0w52rd4yfdg9zlw9qvwdy46alzelklkefptrd203m37tuq4djmeg to post this and boosted to create outrage. Kinda similar playbook as the original attack a couple of months ago.

The sad part is that many people take him seriously. We got some questions yesterday, so I’ll repeat again here. The image below is 100% FAKE. Primal does not display content advisories.

As for nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj, dude are you okay? Seriously concerned for you. You are a talented developer, why waste your cycles on such negativity? Find something productive to work on. This is Nostr; that level of hate does not vibe here. Pura vida. 💜☀🫂

https://m.primal.net/HPKR.jpg


Trolls gotta troll


Because this content warning isn't shown, it's a lie or fake. I could also argue that it's a dick move to not show this warning to a npub that is subjeced to these hidden terms. I think discussion and communication is the better path here. All that is happening here is trying to get a reaction. Just be adults and talk about it. That works wonders sometimes.


it's a meme.

it is/was.

yes.


It's a meme that was made to look real. Just because it's a meme doesn't mean that people won't think it's true. Look everywhere online. People get their news from memes 😂


yes, but the intent was to show what is going on


Sorry, I side with nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj here. I see no problem with with warning people about content that they don't want to see. I think nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr 's attitude here is WRONG and not like nostr at all.  Additionally I see no problem with throttling content like this when it's your platform, when it isn't ok is when you try to do it further than just your platform.

Hate me or Unfollow me if you want, that's my 2 sats.

I would also like to point out I was being shadowbanned a while back, I will be the first to admit that I was spam back then, I feel like I have improved now.

Peace and love is the way of nostr, everyone have a great night.

nostr:nevent1qqsfmtny2yc84wqc0n9dm3hc5vtwyq05732gywmrj32n2anf3y5vvwspp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqzyrtp7w79k045gq80mtnpdxjuzl9t7vjxk52rv80f888y5xsd5mh55qcyqqqqqqg67a4w4


I STAND WITH nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj .. now go get your fucking cast iron and throw down a delicious waffle or some shit as a sign of approval nostr:npub18ams6ewn5aj2n3wt2qawzglx9mr4nzksxhvrdc4gzrecw7n5tvjqctp424 !!!


I know that. I just feel there's a much better way of doing it. My mind won't change there.


It's 11pm and I am drained AF. Maybe tomorrow.


That’s the spirit!! 😮💨😮💨😮💨🥳🥳🥳


for sure for sure


I do not agree. it is completely up to the user and client to use their discretion. don't like built in filtering? use one of the other 100 clients or apps.

There are many relays that only have some content, ie: christian, god, religious notes. should that also not be allowed? isn't that the same thing?


From: nostr:npub13azv2cf3kd3xdzcwqxlgcudjg7r9nzak37usnn7h374lkpvd6rcq4k8m54


bad actor


It’s a good and nuanced take you had here nostr:npub18ams6ewn5aj2n3wt2qawzglx9mr4nzksxhvrdc4gzrecw7n5tvjqctp424 and nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr but doctoring this image is a dumb move that should be called out.

We don’t want top-down protocol-level moderation, partly that’s why many of us are here. That means that when someone misbehaves it should be called out. And here, specifically, doctoring a picture to trash someone’s product is simply bad.

I said this to nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj privately and probably publicly too in the past; I don’t understand why he’s so fixated on Primal but nothing speaks louder than code and we have the opportunity of building our individual visions for nostr.

Don’t get distracted, focus on building.


Amém, sir 🙏


Agreed, there isn’t an easy fix for this stuff but we should at least pretend to be adults. Derek makes good arguments


People become so passionate it becomes their downfall and leads them to making rash moves. Calling out shit is the right thing to do but don't let it hinder progress. Move the fuck on!


Oh, so nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj created this as a way to bring to people’s attention the way nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg filters the trending list?


He’s clearly a victim of multiple “attacks”. 🙄

I deleted primal after the first time he whined. Paper thin feelings should stay out of public view if they don’t want to be criticized.


I just read this whole thread and even though I havent a clue about what you guys are talking about, unlike shitter, I still feel the love.


Do you dislike political satire cartoons?

Semi was clearly expressing himself using art. This is not an attack on a person. It’s a critique of a website. If you don’t want your product critiqued, you shouldn’t build a public product.

Generative AI will be much more malicious than this or the previous “attack”.

Furthermore, I find it weak and off putting to cry every time someone critiques your product. Not the sign off quality leadership. Not that my personal opinion matters much there.


One cat is getting a lot of attention. The last update from Primal was over a month ago.


You could always not render images from npubs tagged NSFW and give a notification of why.


exactly! the execution was bad, which I admitted multiple times, and yet miljan seems to ignore this. I have literally checked multiple times they filter on the level of npubs instead of content

the worse part about this is that people hide content using this filter from all their feeds and notifications, and users are getting misled into thinking this would only hide NSFW posts


100% in these parts, we call that a meme. I guess they feel sour about it because there’s so much truth in the message


NSFW.js exists and it can run in the browser.


Where's Jin Yang when we need him?


That cat will never not be distracted


Remember nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj, the originator of the Primal cEnSoRsHiP and ShAdOwBaNnInG narrative?

Check out his latest work below. He took the time to create a fake Primal content advisory. Even put in the effort with the border gradient to make it look real. Then he got nostr:npub1ezw0xm0w52rd4yfdg9zlw9qvwdy46alzelklkefptrd203m37tuq4djmeg to post this and boosted to create outrage. Kinda similar playbook as the original attack a couple of months ago.

The sad part is that many people take him seriously. We got some questions yesterday, so I’ll repeat again here. The image below is 100% FAKE. Primal does not display content advisories.

As for nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj, dude are you okay? Seriously concerned for you. You are a talented developer, why waste your cycles on such negativity? Find something productive to work on. This is Nostr; that level of hate does not vibe here. Pura vida. 💜☀🫂

https://m.primal.net/HPKR.jpg