Oddbean

This is the way.... Lucky to live in a semi rural area with large homesteading contingent. Swapping fruit / vegetables with others for what we don't grow is so common. No dollar values, just I have this and you have that...it so works. I trade my labour or skills when needed on larger land holdings for firewood cutting or meatbirds / rabbits whatever they have that I could use.

😂😂😂 It can be comemunity makes the difference. We're all a bit alternative, anti establishment in the hills here...😉 During the bullshit lockdowns in this nanny state, the Mrs did a food box delivery service to families that had no invome, all food was donated by people we know. she managed to get a crate with a weeks worth of food to 20-24 families for 16 weeks.... That really got my faith back in humanity

In a properly free and voluntarily partitioned society and market, when individuals are succeeding its because they are providing goods and services that others desire and voluntarily trade for. It's only if you're forced to "deal with the consequences" of others' behavior that don't align with the norm of adding value to society where you run into problems. It should be possible to isolate the drug users and drug dealers in Portland away from one's society, market, community. Those who choose to associate with that scene (either because they desire what it offers, or because they wish to attempt to help heal it at their own expense) will expose themselves to the consequences - "good" and "bad". Those who wish to be isolated from the consequences should be free to do so. You assume our fates must all be entangled together. That premise results in unsolvable problems; agreed. I reject the premise. Because I prefer social norms that reduce conflict and tend to produce solveable problems.

The ideal anarcho-capitalist voluntary society sounds like a utopia to me, personally, but it doesn't require anything too magical or unreasonable aside from leaving a set of people alone to do their own thing. It's being allowed to Exit that is the difficult precursor. States are unfriendly to the idea of letting their citizens renounce their status and take a little bit of border land with them.