As someone who has learned a great deal from both saif and saylor I really appreciated this conversation.
My main objection with saylors view is that he's trying to use decentralized money in a centralized world, and I don't think that works.
He said that bitcoin is an asset that we issue capital on top of, but I disagree, bitcoin is the capital, it is the money, it is the medium of exchange.
You can't issue yield in bitcoin and issuing yield in fiat is just more of the same shit. Let that way of thinking perish along with the banks as we know them.