Oddbean new post about login | logout Yesterday, I listed two smartphones for sale on Nostr via Amethyst's Shopstr integration. Today, those phones sold. No Facebook Marketplace. No eBay. Just beautiful decentralized shopping and decentralized payments. I'll ship them tomorrow. We are winning.
I was eyeballin that pixel.
Yeah. I've been thinking about what I could sell to utilize that...
We need more items for sale.
Maybe come spring I'll get back into spraypaint art or something... 🤷 I don't have many material things, nor create them. 🤔
Wow sounds right up my alley 🤔😂
Those were very nice phones and not EOL either. Glad to hear you sold em! Seemed like w good price too
Definitely good phones for another two years or more.
Are they using a parcel or perhaps their home address? I'm asking for considering opsec.
I assume they're personal addresses.
Ship to a PO Box or abandoned house.
Isn't a PO box under your name? Thanks
Yeah, but we're talking about buying phones not crack. You can use initials on the return address on a PO BOX If you're buying crack and need absolute privacy, use an abandoned house. This is just an example. Don't do crack :)
Thank you king
On a more serious note, I think Eric Hughes put it best: "Privacy is necessary for an open society in the electronic age. **Privacy is not secrecy. A private matter is something one doesn't want the whole world to know, but a secret matter is something one doesn't want anybody to know.** Privacy is the power to selectively reveal oneself to the world."
Sorry for the dumb question but how did you go about shipping them?
Shipping via USPS to the addresses they provided to me.
Any source for tutorial on how to do this
I just listed the item with Amethyst. It's an icon on the posting menu bar.
maybe its because im on graphene that I dont have a menu bar in amethyst... thanks Derek
You got some free publicity when I demoed Coracle's market feature on the #topbuilder2024 live stream today 😂
very cool. thank you.
Ya know, I never thought about selling something.. I've got an Ebay account where I sell items of a deceased family member.. Damn that sound shitty.. It is shitty but life goes on.. Hm, I guess I could post pictures.. Thanks for the idea.
We need no middleman. This is how we do it. nostr:nevent1qqst8ft6dygqpcc5ht656pmu33npsjdvu7zc9j92cny2xmgq36njuwspzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejsygplwuxkt5a8vj5utj6s8tsj8e3wcavc45p4mqmw92qs7wrh5azmyspsgqqqqqqspe7g5e
buying and selling using nostr and lightning is beautiful 💜 so easy so elegant so pure me sell, you buy. done and done. nostr:nevent1qqst8ft6dygqpcc5ht656pmu33npsjdvu7zc9j92cny2xmgq36njuwsprpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuumwdae8gtnnda3kjctvqgsr7acdvhf6we9fch94qwhpy0nza36e3tgrtkpku25ppuu80f69kfqrqsqqqqqp4zwcn9
Does it have something like a dispute or escrow system? Or is it all good faith?
Currently listings of this kind are in good faith, but we’re working on getting a dispute and escrow system in place with @shopstr to make the shopping experience more seamless.
I think it would be beneficial to show a WoT score too, in similar fashion to the WoT scores shows on Coracle.
Definitely! Our implementation of a WoT score and/or rating system for products and sellers is currently being fleshed out. Might make it one of our milestones for round 2 of Top Builder.
That's actually a good idea, nothing sounds more trustworthy than a distributed reputation system, the thing is... how possible would be for a user to just create profiles and say he performed transactions with his other profiles in order to farm himself this socre or reputation?
Gaming the reputation system is definitely a concern. Charging some sats to leave a review could be a way to mitigate this.
But wouldn't that disincentivize the legit user who is going to leave the review too? What do they win by leaving the review anyway as they are using time wibut also would cost them sats? Besides a user with a big enough lightning reserve could still fabricate their own rating. Gonna think about this further 🤔
Feelings good. God bless you
where were these listed? Ive got a camera or two that Im keen to sell
You can list items with @shopstr at https://shopstr.store and they’ll show up on any client that supports NIP-99. Amethyst and Coracle are 2 of the clients that I’m aware of that do so atm, and they allow you to list items directly as well!
This is quite amazing!
No carbon footprint social score
Great news!
Cool. Should have posted a notice on nostr you had a Pixel 6a up for sale.
I posted them on Nostr...
Well dang. I missed it then.
I have a Pixel 7 Pro that I'm going to list in a week if you're interested in that.
I'm wanting to switch to GrapheneOS, so tell me more about the 7 Pro.
The camera is the best feature, IMO. You can't beat that 50X telephoto lens. It's a large phone with a large screen. Battery life could be better, but it's all about how you use it and what apps you use. Mint condition, always in a case. I'll even toss in my $50 leather case for free. The only reason I'm selling it is because I was given an opportunity to upgrade. Otherwise I'd be using it for another year or two.
how much?
690,000 sats including shipping if you're in the USA.
how much to Canada?
Add 45,000 sats.
EBay banned me and I have no idea why. Guess what? Fuck you eBay! nostr:nevent1qqst8ft6dygqpcc5ht656pmu33npsjdvu7zc9j92cny2xmgq36njuwspr9mhxue69uhhqatjv9mxjerp9ehx7um5wghxcctwvspzq0mhp4ja8fmy48zuk5p6uy37vtk8tx9dqdwcxm32sy8nsaa8gkeyqvzqqqqqqy5m8wce
I was looking how to upload to the nostr marketplace...So is with Shopstr, now i can try it🤙. This is so cool sience i have notiece some marketplace apps in my countrie are actively censoring in their platforms. Happened to me twice for no reason. Now they can go f*themselves
That sucks that that has happened to you. However, I'm happy that nostr is able to provide a solution for you.
Looking forward to the Shopstr presentation this Saturday at Culture Shock @calvadev⚡️ 🤙🏻
Excited to speak and meet everyone in-person! 🤙
👇Super!👇 nostr:nevent1qqst8ft6dygqpcc5ht656pmu33npsjdvu7zc9j92cny2xmgq36njuwspzfmhxue69uhk7enxvd5xz6tw9ec82cszyqlhwrt96wnkf2w9edgr4cfruchvwkv26q6asdhz4qg08pm6w3djgqcyqqqqqqgf6vd82
Absolutely. Thanks for clarifying for those not familiar 🫂🫂🫂
Thank you gentlemen. Enlightened me.
Check out NIP-15 :) https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/15.md
Thank you gentlemen. Enlightened me.
