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still haven't seen any photo or video from you where I can identify date, location and civil victims from donbass 2014.
that wasn't "rebels", that was russian military themselves. I can show you video where russian special forces in full equipment capturing Slavyansk in april 2014. "rebels" don't have rocket launchers, if those rocket launchers crossed ukranian border from russia this war can't be called civil war. rebels don't have complex radar systems to shot MH-17 in the summer 2014.