Oddbean new post about login | logout my zap has been queued for longer than it should.. it could be your receiving address.. also thereβs no way those numbers are real I remember zapping you before @brugeman quick question why isnβt it displaying the correct # of received for his npub
3 min far too long https://i.nostr.build/8GqlG.jpg
Bro for real I've received way more zaps than that. Nostr. band broke?
#amethyst shows ~29k https://image.nostr.build/ddbe4c74ca5c8518cc44b3960e11f78bec6612b59bf598739553de6231dee914.jpg Idk what's wrong with nostrband
Eggggsactlyyy youβll find diff numbers in every client or micro app you use, i remember someone trying to explain this to me before, I couldβve sworn it has something to do with relays.. donβt quite remember tho
Zaps are events, so it would depend upon which relays you were reading the events from. https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/57.md
would be nice if it allowed you to read from your relays and the relays your WoT uses, donβt know how numbers wouldnβt be accurate if that were to happen..
i know!! itβs always been unreliable when it comes to stats, mostly everything is.. you get different numbers everywhere you look, thatβs just the nature of nostr i guess.. which is why i specifically dislike when people display the active user chart from nostr.band it holds 0 weight. https://i.nostr.build/Q720v.jpg
110%!!! Known this for years we don't rely on follower count but thought zaps would be a bit different at this point. Guess not!
canβt trust anything lol not even the number displaying the amount of notes n replies you put out, every single stat here is fucked lol reason why I donβt even know if advertisers will ever step in.. how will they justify the marketing dollars if they donβt have stats. But hey maybe itβs a good thing, guess only time will tell π«‘
Hit the nail on the head 100%! They'll fund their own clients and use their algo's to "verify" numbers first before they blinding step in to any Nostr environment I agree I say its a good thing
Agreeeeed!
I don't think there is anything more reliable, _especially_ when it comes to active user charts, but I'm happy to be proven wrong.
but thatβs the thing itβs not reliable bc it isnβt accurate.. and Iβm sure nobody has tried to do active user charts bc of the unreliability of it.. remember how much we clowned the numbers we were given when primal tried to do it ?
I don't remember about primal. Some numbers are more reliable, some less, our stats are the best estimate I have seen.
what other estimates are there ? Iβve only seen yours and primals, I didnβt know there were more to be honest.
Also many numbers under npubs/events are probabilistic counters, they are never accurate, but reliably around the actual numbers. Overall stats are different and much more accurate.
idk much about overall stats the only two examples Iβve seen are yours and primals, is there any other place I can look ?
Why or why wouldn't the stats be accurate? Are there different ways to track npub activity and events?
Because of our broken code, or probabilistic counting, or decentralized nature of nostr where we can't be sure we have all the data
Does outbox help this at all. If not does anything. Will there ever be βgoodβ data?
As far as I understand from a quick investigation, your ln wallet publishes invalid zap events. Most clients don't really verify anything, but nostr.band does, because it tries to count real payments. > SHA256(description) MUST match the description hash in the bolt11 invoice. This nip57 rule is broken in 9735 events published by your wallet (minibits I'm guessing):
