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> Murder can never be morally acceptable, since it is violence. Burglary is violence, theft is violence. Threat to hurt you unless you comply, is violence. And the above is with one large caveat; "unless it is defending against violence".
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> Why is that so hard to get?

It isnt hard to understand, it also isnt what I asked or said.

> From my PoV, you can set up your commune with laws and rulers, and people can agree to obeying with threat of caging and death if they don't... as long as I and others are not required to live there.

Oh so you are actually all for governments that use for an coercion. So long as you can leave.

Ok so how is it inforced that they let you? I mean they decide according to their rules you arent allowed to leave cause they dont like your face and instead you will be tortured for life... Since you said the rule here should be that you are allowed to leave, so when that rule is broken, who, in your system comes in and forces that commune to let you go? 

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