the future of damus is a marketplace of turing complete, sandboxed edge algorithms powered by nostrdb. edge algorithms means no relay overhead. efficient, private, scalable, where new algorithms can be created, shared and sold without limits.

I just figured out a solid plan on how to make this happen. I’ve started building it today. This may be bigger than zaps 💥


How would it be different than DVMs?


Let’s fucking, go?


from what I gather from his message, they run on your machine, think of it as custom private "feed algorithms" that you can use and you control and can sell to other users


I’m waiting to download it App Store locked me from downloading


Nostr's Smart Contracts? Can we do some type of STARK vm to create proofs that people run the code without changing it? :)


these run locally, are private, don’t depend on an internet connection. They are turing complete nostr queries that run locally.

DVMs are inherently about asking something from an external resource which may not exist or stop working.


bare metal buy


Coming in hot 🔥


Always ahead of the game my guy ... Wonder wheat he is about to create tho 🤔


Ok, that is awesome!!!


YUGE IF TRUE


It will be, if you can solve logistics/customer service.

A seller should be able to ship a box of stuff to an address, make a listing and then collect satoshis as orders roll in. On the flip side they should be able to pay someone to handle returns and other customer service issues.

If they do decide to handle everything themselves, the User experience should be the same. That way we can have competing drop-shipping services plus DIY all in one interface.


Yes, let's!


Onward 🫡

Onward 🫡


LFG 🚀🫡


Excuse my ignorance. What does turning complete mean in this context?


They will have infinite flexibility, so that people can have limitless innovation when building these algorithms into the future


Scriptless scripts, fun


That’s awesome. Will come with a rudimentary tool for normies to configure their own algorithms?

Or is this aimed at the tech savvy who need to code the algorithm and put it on the store?


I just wanted Notedeck skins, but I'm okay with this too 🤣 This will be baller if you can pull it off. It's what we've all been talking about for a year, an algo marketplace. Let's go dude.


👀
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Yeah! That’s would be great!


What nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s is suggesting will be much more powerful though. I hope an easy interface for programming it will be available eventually.


this warrants an emergency citadel dispatch


Since its wasm, there can even be innovation in algorithm generation tooling. Everything from visual programming (node graphs) to scripting.


Love to see it.

Side note, this is how I try to bridge the knowledge gap 🤣🤣🤣 https://i.nostr.build/Q7Pr7.jpg


LFG🤙


👀

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the future of damus is a marketplace of turing complete, sandboxed edge algorithms powered by nostrdb. edge algorithms means no relay overhead. efficient, private, scalable, where new algorithms can be created, shared and sold without limits.

I just figured out a solid plan on how to make this happen. I’ve started building it today. This may be bigger than zaps 💥


I do the same 🤣😂


looking forward to learning more.


I did not understand that.

But hell yeah


We are swimming with the sharks here 😅🤣


Onward 🫡

Onward 🫡


Starting to write down the low level ingredients needed to make this happen:

https://github.com/damus-io/nostrdb/issues/33


Keep building 🩵


Like a Shopify platform/client on nostr?


LFG🔥

LFG🔥


Where do the algos live?

Maybe in Carbonado?


STAY HUMBLE STACK SATS 🫡

STAY HUMBLE STACK SATS 🫡


You had me at the future of Damus 💜


Enjoy some generational wealth

Enjoy some generational wealth


Cheers 🍻

Cheers 🍻


the algos are in portable binary strings:

nscript1qpshxmgpqqqqqqgtqfsqxlml0uqh7cqqqqppsqg9dehhxarjpehx7um5wf0hxet5ta3x7mmvqqqqxqspqyzsxqgqqyrs5qgxd4jk6mmj0ypqqzqpqyxqzqs2z5q3xqzp5qyyr8qg9qpqqsgpweqsqyqqrg9skggzqpqcczqtqywqqsvcpq93xqsqqqqqcqqqqphqqmcq0gqxzqrsqpesehczp5


nostr never sleeps


What if i told you I already had this working?  😉 My agents should talk to your agents!


cant imagine we have the same implementation 😅 mine is a bit crazy


We do not.  But that's what makes it fun!  Mine is a bit crazy too.  Should definitely compare notes!


Started writing my notes here:

https://github.com/damus-io/nostrdb/issues/33


What about moderation ??? 👀


this word means very little to me without more details


I refer more to this part, without leaving aside the moral values of freedom

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Moderation for me is the turning point at Nostr and the one that will differentiate the most... hence my interest in what the devs of the clients I use think 🫡


nostr doesn’t host media so this makes no sense to me


Hoping to see what it unveils.


made lots of progress on this today 👀


I needed to hear both sides, thanks for responding


what does that mean?


nostr:npub1x0r5gflnk2mn6h3c70nvnywpy2j46gzqwg6k7uw6fxswyz0md9qqnhshtn is a side? I thought he was an autist troll


Not a troll


Yesterday,  someone spammed global with links to child porn from matrix.org

Sure nostr dont host media but relays will host links to child porn and said images will be stored on everyones phone, app, beowser cache making them store said porn


many clients have a feature to not download images from people you don’t follow, including damus.


Bro, I admire you but this answer is unnecessary… contradictions are the basis of development


Yes thats good for those minority clients.  But many have cp on their device now lol


reassess. like truly.

consider perhaps the question:

who do you work for?
is it for free
is it the for the cop in your head


And clear cache


Wtf you saying


dont let me know
i dont care & we are never speaking again

im asking you to ask you
& if it is for free
& if it is a cop
maybe kill that thought concept.


Onward 🫡

Onward 🫡


the future of damus is a marketplace of turing complete, sandboxed edge algorithms powered by nostrdb. edge algorithms means no relay overhead. efficient, private, scalable, where new algorithms can be created, shared and sold without limits.

I just figured out a solid plan on how to make this happen. I’ve started building it today. This may be bigger than zaps 💥


Great post⚡

Great post⚡


⚡ LIVE FREE ⚡

⚡ LIVE FREE ⚡


Huuuge!
nostr:npub1nxa4tywfz9nqp7z9zp7nr7d4nchhclsf58lcqt5y782rmf2hefjquaa6q8 this is 💯 what I meant with "DVM's" that run locally.


Coffee on me ☕

Coffee on me ☕


you could also do something else, for space conserving reasons to trade off more advanced indexing, while only noting where the data was seen via a compact serial index

events are so small that even simple filter indexes take up quite a bit of space... probably would help to have varints for timestamps event serials, but yeah, easily 128 bytes or so for a basic filter index, if you want more advanced stuff than that it's gonna reach towards being as big as the average 750 byte events themselves

gonna think about that idea though, how to compactly store the timestamps and indexes, these fields occur repeatedly within the index and for access counters as well for the need of managing a garbage collector


Sounds rad. I’m glad someone is pioneering on the algorithm front. 🤖


This has a DNA nucleotide sequence vibe.


DNA is just code after all


But it’s like code that can look at itself. Representing algos with portable binary string seems like a step toward that. DNA is not just code… it’s magic code.


Check Out GraphQL - has this stuff already. Just put a redis behind.


Can do anything, like most programming languages.


made progress on this. it's pretty dope.