Links:

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBpNFc8oAro&t=2s
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4xv676eWQKGcgVp9TFqoaf
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/money-matters-with-jack-mallers/id1695949365
Fountain: https://fountain.fm/episode/COFGEVyc5z8xVWyQqYvD