Brutal truth: 80% of Joe Rogan podcasts are boring bigly: MMA fighters, lame podcasters, standup comedians, so only scientists are interesting, and finally Joe scored one scientist:

Dr. Debra Soh is a sex neuroscientist, journalist, and author of "The End of Gender:
Debunking the Myths about Sex and Identity in Our Society."

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2UOSTM1YCl71ybja9wUiVZ?si=lz48KipaSoaTKUjruP9nyA .