Is anything digital ever real? 😵💫


thinking face


Is reality even real 😵💫


Yes.  "We're living in a simulation" is hedonistic cope.


lol but how could the simulation be real if reality isn’t real 😵💫

It’s not just a hedonistic cope fyi there’s some really cool statistics and quantum physics behind these theories, cool thought experiments, but terrible, toxic and destructive ideologies when adopted as a fully realized mental perspective


Quantum mechanics allows for almost limitless *hypotheses* but the number of solved problems and the scientific theories associated with them is very small in the field.


I have a friend who all his life has been writing code. letters on the screen. but when I said him about bitcoin he said he only believes in physical money that you can hold in your hands. I was speechless


Yes, Bitcoin


To be precise everything digital is real in a sense that there are some electrical currents representing whatever information.
Bitcoin is unique as it ties “real life” power units (watts) with digital units (coins/utxo’s)


Good one xDD


I hope he’s using gold coins cause dollar is surr not physical xD


But is electricity even real though 😵💫

I’m being facetious but scientists actually do argue about this believe it or not


Put a fork in the socket please


On a serious note I would love to see sources of what you mean, i never heard of such a discussion


It’s still a fluid conversation so the centralized places of information will make claims which match with current engineering assumptions but here’s a starting point and I’ll add more later (I can’t find the actual source I enjoyed):

https://youtu.be/bHIhgxav9LY?si=RVs2grmNOLTvXKZy


Yes


Ah oh yeah, seen that.


Veritasium is not a scientist and it’s not a scientific study
There is a bunch of debunking videos, of this and other statements of veritasium, some of them by actual scientist
MOST importantly- it’s a “discussion” on how electricity is transferred and NOT if it’s REAL !!
If you touch 25+V you’ll get hurt and with high enough current die, I think you can find videos of real electric chair.
If you want to experiment take bare wires with rubber gloves to a piece of paper and it will light on fire


But isn’t it really magnetism ?


No, you cannot power up devices with magnets. Magnetic field is not the same as ELECTROmagnetic field. Look up how generator works. You need a magnet and a coil of conducting wire(copper) and they have to be moving in relation to one another. Like magnet being turned by water wheel. Magnetic field of the magnet moves electrons, because they are negatively charged and far away from the core of an atom and therefore can be moved (attracted to the positive pole of the magnet) Moving electrons create an ELECTROmagnetic field in the wire coil.


Just to make sure it makes sense to you: magnets don’t create lightning strikes, don’t heat things up, don’t kill (or give electro shock) when touched , don’t function as batteries, can’t power up a lightbulb. You can think of it that electromagnetic field has all properties of a magnetic field (attraction of opposite poles, repulsion of same ones) but magnetic field doesn’t have all the properties of electromagnetic field


You 100% can power up devices with magnets… 🙄


There are like a bunch of other ways, but you mention the most commonly utilized.  And actually argue against your first statement.  Either way, I love math and science arguments so 👍


Yes they do… wrong.  You’re being too limitative in your definitions and possibility ranges.


Are you an engineer?


I’d love to see a recourse as we are having a scientific discussion:)


Can you specify what do you mean with answering my own question?


Oh I think I get it.. magnets are NEEDED to produce electricity so you think they ARE electrical somehow


It’s about placement


Could you describe in your own words how you understand it?


Is there a copper wire in a lightning cloud?


Is the sunlight entering your eye through a copper wire ? Do you need to press your ear to peoples mouths to hear them speak? Air is a medium for wave propagation and moreover electromagnetic waves (light) are the only waves that propagates without a medium aka vacuum of space


Exactly nostr:nprofile1qqs9l7uwrd4k98qwxjsp87ff36aswkde3g7jgq5ezcep6h45y4dkwdgprpmhxue69uhkxun9v968ytnwdaehgu3wwa5kuef0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnwdaehgu3wvfnj7qfqwaehxw309ahx7um5wghx26tww4hxg7nhv9h856t89eehqctrv5hsxdryhn, just free your mind! 🤣😂🤣


I am. And never forget that
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Shit why am I learning that damn electrical engineering the fuckers are brainwashing me 🤯


I’m mainly arguing definitions - the idea that electricity exists separately from magnetism to me is false.  Do you consider microwaves light?


I think experimentally magnet is not necessary for electrical charges to emerge and natural magnets don’t require electricity to have magnetic properties. They have a big overlap and affect each other but aren’t inseparable.


Microwave is radiation on electromagnetic spectrum same as visible light so I’d only use word light for the visible spectrum but it’s an arbitrary description as physically only frequency differs between them


Ok well I think you’re wrong but that’s fine

How else would it be possible…? Magnetism is intrinsic to all things? No? Dia Para Ferro


Again I’m being facetious and arguing definitions. However my point is that there’s still a ton of things UNDEFINED by most people which I will define because of experience


It just may not be noticeable at a scale that matters to humans


Honestly, you are not arguing anything. You have not offered a single statement with an experimental support for it.


This answer belongs here: Honestly, you are not arguing anything. You have not offered a single statement with an experimental support for it.


Please define something here. I am honestly curious to know what is your view on electricity.


The view is that it’s all magnetism


Can you please explain it in scientific terms? Like what phenomenon/experiments make you think that ?


it's kinetic energy carried over magnetic fields, which can be induced as toroidal fields around a conductor while the force is transferred (current is being carried)

kinetic energy, or force, causes a change in the structure of matter in some way

it's an interesting thing, someone did an experiment with very long wires, on one side, battery, several kilometers of cable on each side, and a lightbulb on the other side of the loop, right next to the battery

guess how long the light took to turn on, given that the speed of light for the several kilometers distance was a few milliseconds

yeah, instantly, like the wires were centimetres long

my personal theory is that magnetic fields are actually electrons in pairs rotating in opposite direction to each other, and force can be transferred faster than light because it's caused by rotations of the field which have zero time of travel

keeping this in mind, note that the entire galaxy is a connected magnetic field and so are all the galaxies connected to each other, the entanglement and reverse time experiments prove that information can actually be carried without time or energy cost, and our digital encoded signaling systems flints and charcoal compared to what will be possible eventually (and probably already happening inside our noggins)


I’m literally sad you took away opportunity from nostr:npub1d3hrup0pe8f24c8dysc4gjh2gythrhvasyqh2wd0plvp3v3cnu5qhsfrtn to actually use a braincell.
I’m also sad you say “did you know” about the video that has been shared in the beginning of this conversation. You are clearly interested in talking and not listening.
Do you know what would be the difference in this experiment if said cables were further apart than one meter that they were ?


Imho the field is the area in which force is present aka field is an abstraction and not a substance. Thoughts?

About your personal theory: do you mean electron pairs in a single atom ? In that case what about atomic weight 1?

Or do you mean electron pairs between different atoms, in that case could you describe how this would work?

Random, non scientific, I’m pulling this out of my ass: if same charges (two negatively charged electrones) are rotating in opposite directions (rotating around what?) are they not canceling out each others effects?


i'd guess, given the conditions are that it's DC, that the greater the distance the greater the resistance, so a circle version would not light up, without incredible voltage that would probably fuse regular house wires

it's just that most people don't understand that electrical current is conveyed by a magnetic field and magnetic fields have zero mass so the time of travel is about hysteresis, which for copper wires is very low as it isn't ferromagnetic... but it's high enough that it seems like the same or near abouts the same as light speed. an experiment using an iron conductor versus copper would confirm this

this is an old debate, also, and the reason why tesla was right and edison was wrong about DC current

the resistance is too high for safe DC voltages, and foot thick wires are just not very practical in terms of cost of production

there is a lot of misconceptions about the nature of electricity

everything is electromagnetic, electricity really is just literally the phenomena of kinetic energy transferred over magnetic fields

this is why this idea you can't create an impulse engine purely via electricity is wrong, electrons are matter, you jsut have to get them in a quantum configuration that turns the velocity into mass long enough to do the newton thing

also i'm not sure sasha is a woman... it's actually a slavic pet name version of alex


Electromagnetic field !!!! Not the magnetic field. The two are different


Thanks a lot mister Alexander and Alexandra are both Sasha


yes, the kinetic energy

the *changing* magnetic field

it's difficult to even say which one is which, is kinetic energy a changing magnetic field or is a changing magnetic field kinetic energy?

this "gravitational potential energy" which is the spook in the middle of this equation, is the energy that is carried by an electromagnetic field, that literally enables you to spin a wheel on one side, and a loop of wire with a coil on each end and you can transfer that kinetic energy directly as spin (given good geometric arrangement) to another, sans the resistance loss of the resistance of the loop of conductor between

what's interesting, to me, is that though the change of the polarity has a kind of inertia (which is proportional to resistance) it does not have a time of travel, only a limitation based on the medium the current flows through, which gives you resistance

resistance creates heat in the conductor but heat can also alter the flow of kinetic energy via newton's equal and opposite

this is why it's an absolute travesty that we still don't have public access to tesla's papers because there is good reason to believe he mostly figured out how to directly take that field potential out of the earth and directly generate current

and this shouldn't be amazing because in fact, earthquakes mostly happen via piezoelectric action caused by electrons thrown at us by the sun and caught in the poles of the earth's magnetic field

with the way that this magnetic field is weakening at this time, as a rotating field oscillation that passes every ~6000 years through 90 degrees from the centre of the galaxy, if humans could just figure out how to use the endless energy that is currently on in the process of going massively hockeystick to protect ourselves from the earthquakes, storms and volcanoes that this weak magnetic field is also going to induce

i didn't mean to interrupt the discussion, per se, just that my models of energy and motion and matter have been greatly impacted by recent understanding about how magnetism and electrons and protons flow around the solar system and galaxy and how it affects the weather, especially

but that's massive amounts of energy, i mean massive, i mean retarded amounts of energy, and in normal times it's enough to run all the machines, but in these times it could launch us to deep space


electrons are particles that tend to orbit protons and have a left and right spin, they form pairings and if these pairings are within sufficient ratio of their paths and their spin, they function - like you say, - as atomic weight zero, or a virtual hydrogen atom, which is 2 electrons, 1 proton and 1 neutron

yes, regarding the last point, i think that when you temporarily induce an electron pair into a tight enough orbit of each other they lose their electromagnetic field and become pure kinetic (gravitational potential) energy

the Em Drive is a recent experiment that shows that it seems to be possible to induce electrons into a state where they act as though they have standard gravitational potential energy aka mass

it's my opinion that if you combine a tesla coil circuit with a resonator, like the Em Drive you can greatly increase the production of these "temporary matter" configuration of electrons and have full on impulse engine that only moves electrons and doesn't require a one way chemical energy circuit


Ok, thanks for putting something concrete on the table. I hoped nostr:npub1d3hrup0pe8f24c8dysc4gjh2gythrhvasyqh2wd0plvp3v3cnu5qhsfrtn to do it but oh well.
I’ll read into this and will let you know if my mind is changed by any degree


Would you please provide any sources to earthquake statement there ?


meh, i have just had ideas, no money or space to do experiments, some relatively concrete concepts for how to build the devices but no opportunity

it does feel like it's on the tip of my tongue or something how you would take the excess electrons out of the earth to capture the kinetic energy they encapsulate, like, someone is going to figure it out really soon


yes there is many, if you watch the Suspicious Observers channel every other day he's announcing new geophysics papers he's found that have discovered influencing relations between solar energy phenomena and earthquakes

much of the rock in the crust of the earth contains piezoelectric  reactive quartz crystals that deform when you put current through them of sufficient voltage, and the rest of the material is mildly conductive materials, like, the iron/magnesium/aluminum of basaltic rocks, and quartz is not just piezo but amorphous silica crystals in general can hold surface charges, like the way it is used to make ceramic capacitors, and how they exert their adsorbent effects as used in chromatography and other things like water purifiers catching ions and cations


Wow bro I’m so impressed 🫠👌💫


nostr:npub1fjqqy4a93z5zsjwsfxqhc2764kvykfdyttvldkkkdera8dr78vhsmmleku What tf kind of thread did I just follow you in to.

Fellas, MIT offers free courses on YouTube, and their new opencoursewear website. Stanford offers engineering courses free on coursera.com. Idk who needs to go back to class but holy crap.


Right?


i am unable to determine if you mean i need the courses or if others need the courses

if the question is about piezoelectricity having a relation to seismic activity then, idk what to say

i miss the days when piezo tweeters were common

in those days i could hear the sound properly


Can you please link the specific classes that you think are most applicable to those who want to enlighten themselves on electricity?


also, if there was an electric impulse device that existed this discussion wouldn't even be happening

it's not in the schools yet, it's still barely in the papers for a decade now

the em-drive stuff was at first poo pooed and then suddenly nasa started a research project, because it seemed to be true that these "electrons" were pushing matter around, and not just a boring electrostatic style ion drive, which has the fuel gas problem (and associated weight for launch)

if i were a working theoretical physicist with a lab where i could make all the coils and piezo things and whatnot that i wanted, i wouldn't be saying "it's all just ideas i have had from what i have read" and the stuff about solar-driven piezo action being involved in earthquakes is not trivial

this is a shit-ton of energy that can bump around the peta-tons of crust that move in an earthquake

this is energy, we can use this energy, before it induces an earthquake, if we can figure out how to make a contra-potential (positive) for the electrostatic force coming upwards from the ground, it's literally free energy from the solar system magnetic field sheet, same as solar energy uses photons to bump electrons around this is just catching the actual electrons our highly capacitative earth is being fed


https://youtu.be/sOabkUn53B8

the earth discharges upwards too, not only does charge in the atmosphere go downwards

the earth is a giant capacitor and tapping the energy it absorbs is probably the end of the energy problem for us here on earth


I know it’s sooo fucking cool, but it would mean that we are 100% not in control which is why trolls hate these concepts


if you search youtube you can find videos where it is demonstrated that a flame is more conductive than normal air

this means that a flame is in a semi-plasma state, thus the decreased resistance

and thus, it also logically follows, that rock that is so damn hot it's liquid, is probably in a semi-plasma state, which means that it is conductive, and thus, my hypothesis is that this upward flowing volcano lightning is actually a negative discharge of earth's collected electrostatic energy, in to a positively charged smoke cloud, (usually)

it just seems DUH to me that if electricity zaps upwards from an erupting volcano, that probably there is jigawatts of electricity in the earth if we just knew how to make a positive charge pole to suck it up and catch that current and drop it in a capacitor/and/or charge batteries or pump water uphill or whatever


100% the earth is alive it has a plasma neurological nervous system is the best way I can explain it


all of the celestial bodies have an electromagnetic thing

the big absurdity of modern climate doomers is that only heat and albedo matters (how much we absorb and how much we reflect of heat) but negatively charged dust is key to cloud formation, water does not form droplets without negatively charged dust to stick to... and cloud formation itself stops albedo anyway, as most of it is reflected back upwards due to total internal reflection of the water droplet's high refractive index

it's the same kind of phenomenon as crystallization, the crystals always form on some tiny bit of garbage with the right electrostatic field around it

i for one am keeping my ears open for clues about how you draw electrons up out of the earth deliberately, because drilling holes and sticking long metal rods down to conduct this electrostatic charge (yeah, i am thinking what these nerds are calling "electric fields" are really the same thing as electrostatic) and how to catch that in a giant array of capacitors and then discharge it slowly into batteries or drive pumps to move water so the energy can be stored later


Ok I have some ideas too, you need a very specific type of jungle at a high elevation


Before we harness it can we just figure out the mechanics first?


yeah, damp ground is important, as is carbon levels, as both increase conductivity

but i think the hard part is how to make something that has the required positive potential at the upper end of your conductor

it obviously can't just be another capacitor, because that's what is at the other end, you see what i mean?

needs to be some kind of device that induces a massive positive charge somehow, or some material that you can induce this state repeatedly or cheaply

i mean, think like, why does wool carpet and many kinds of polyurethane rubber when rubbed, pull electrons out of the rubber and then discharge when you touch earth?

whatever this rubbing process entails, how can i get that passively, how can i make an electrostatic adsorbing surface dump all its electrons so it can suck them up from somewhere

the key would be how you can bootstrap that process, because i'm pretty sure you could make it run overunity so long as you aren't pulling more up than is down there


that is necessary first step, really, it's just the question of what you can do to create a massive positive electrostatic charge on a material so when a conductor is connected to a negative charged object the current jumps through the conductor and you get your discharge


My entire comment history is loading now, so I can see now you were "trolling" if you will. But If you are being serious the electrical engineering course (of which I took in college) would suite you quite well. For entry level, specifically physics 2, linear algebra, and differential equations. If you care more about the physics side of things, electric fields, magnetics and so on, stick to "emag" or electro-magnitism courses. Some (or most) of these are graduate level so I would assume you have a prerequsite bachelors of science or equivalent (usually covers physics too). If you care more about electronic design, stick to signals and circuits courses.

Signals is by far the most difficult in an electrical program, imo. But it just really helps you make sense of space/time imo. If you don't do well with abstraction, it really helps make time quantizable


Are thoughts real? Might be a provocative analogy to answer your question.


I can’t seem to be able to zap you ⚡


I appreciate it, but I don't have a lighting wallet configured. I don't use a smart phone and server based wallets are super complex to learn and avoid issues. Imo lighting is severely under-developed. I have an on-chain address for those who want to donate to my software and that works out fine!


Thank you! And No I wasn’t intending to troll. lol.

If I could add a comment, it is that the addition of chemistry is what will bring us to the next discovery in the field ⚛🧪


Yeah it’s somewhat underdeveloped but I think for the nostr use custodial is ok :)


I have been looking, but that's a bit over my head protocol wise, so hesitant to deploy.


Yeah probably, but I prefer not getting myself into thing's I don't understand or have control over. I like on-chain, it's simple for my smooth brain!


Ok :)


Sooner or later insensitives will do it’s job


Hi Sasha ! I didn't yet have time to compile interesting lessons for you but I'll sporadically send you stuff.

Here is a whole lot of physics simulators, many electricity simulators amongst them

https://www.falstad.com/mathphysics.html


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QFJMmhfI39w
Some more food for thought


Bookmarked thank you! Love stuff like this

Question - what are your thoughts on “data” transmission? How does it transmit data from data without being disruptive?


Lmfao


I love this channel, eastern europe flair detected :D


In any case the questions and self doubt are arising from this totally braindead discussion ;D
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Heyy, just saw the question now. I’m not sure what exactly do you mean.. can you elaborate?


Do you believe data transmission can change the atmosphere?


if it's ionizing radiation like 20ghz V band  as used in starlink, yes, but i doubt it has that much of an impact without being extremely high powered (like a whole dedicated power plant running the transmitter)

however, i think it can disrupt clocks in some parts of the body that are evolved to pick up the diurnal schumann resonance oscillation, similar to how blue light has a reflexive trigger in the eyes that disrupts the sleep/wake cycle


I’m wondering whats the fear behind this question…


Generally, one doesn’t have believes in physics but experimental demonstration and measurement so I “believe” in studies that’s methodology is valid and that have been replicated.
To actually answer: I don’t think about it. In order to discuss this I could read up and form an overview on what’s the state of research on this topic but I don’t find it interesting.


You’re right, it does sound scary, right?

That’s because it is.


Hahaha I still don’t know what are you afraid of 😅


Magnetic field disruption, sets of chain reactions in ways that you would never think possible


nostr:npub1fjqqy4a93z5zsjwsfxqhc2764kvykfdyttvldkkkdera8dr78vhsmmleku showed a great example of how to communicate scientific ideas. Could you try to formulate your thoughts in scientific terms most preferably with examples and or references?


lol, i just have a big vocabulary, and creative mind for sciency stuff


also, if you want to read about the theory that radio frequencies disrupt biological clocks go check out jack kruse https://jackkruse.com/

there is a magnetic oscillation that does a 360' rotation every ~25000 yeares at our position in the galactic disk, it is described as "corrugated" and this causes massive disruption of the magnetic fields of all the planets and the sun, and every 12000 years it causes a "micronova" which is basically a massive storm on the sun that puts out so much matter that in the subsequent 1000 years or so there is objects formed out of it and these also then smash into the planets and cause further chaos

the magnetic disruption alone causes massive problems because it disrupts the normal function of the earth's magnetic field and prompts it to rotate 90', this is the phase of the cycle, every 6000 years, 90' rotation

when this happens, the earth's naturally lumpy magnetic field, because of the uneven distribution of material inside it, at least every 12000 years becomes so disrupted that the crust of the earth moves around to align this magnetic material with the new orientation of the galactic magnetic current sheet, or corrugated magnetic field that propagates from the supermassive stars at the centre of the galaxy, through all the matter around it

you can look these things up, and yes it is scary, and all those dinosaur bones, yes, they are there now from the last time there was a rotation, and i'm pretty sure now that it was 12000 years ago and this was the story behind the Noah great flood (and many other cultures have similar stories, there was tsunamis, meteor storms, airbursts and streaking meteors setting fire to thousands of square miles of land, some talk about how the sun had become "evil" and excessively hot

if you want to pick up the general gist of it, though i think some of the thesis is wrong, get the book "The Apocalypse of Yajnavalkya" - in that book it describes a lot of things that now i know about the galactic magnetic rotation cycle (corrugated current sheet) all fits together a lot better, and also probably explains the disaster of the tower of babel and sodom and gomorrah and the plagues of egypt and all that stuff all sorta fit neatly into that timeline

what's scary is that it's likely going to happen within the next 50 years, another cycle like the one that was the Great Flood and that humans as they are in this situation don't have very long to prepare for it, and most are so oblivious to what is going on, and deluded by these stories about global warming and anthropogenic global warming, it's gonna be a miracle if anyone survives


🙏you’re so cool
Faraday, 1832:

When a conductive liquid, such as water moves through a magnetic field, it will induce occur that is perpendicular to that of the field

Combined with your note above/beliw, it makes me wonder if it’s just an experience of this effect but at  a different scale of time oscillations, the effect so disruptive that from an outside observer the “object” would always look perpendicular from the “volatility field”.

So anyways, the satellites will come down when this happens yea?


Maybe if we meet in person one day I’ll show you what I’m referring to


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You guys we have a philosophical difference here.
I'm not really concerned in which way will I dye or which way the humanity will go to hell. I'm not arguing anything you wrote  nostr:npub1fjqqy4a93z5zsjwsfxqhc2764kvykfdyttvldkkkdera8dr78vhsmmleku, I just thing I have bigger chances to get hit by a car tomorrow or get a terminal disease from pollution in our air and food  than to be lucky enough to dye of some cosmic scheme.
Also I believe in deterministic universe so what needs to happen will happen.
Also I refuse to be afraid of things that I can't influence.
Also I am only concerned with things that affect my life, I like to make things work weather it's fixing an old radio or optimizing heating with a home miner.
Philosophizing about digital stuff being real is fine, but only provided that the other party is aware of at least high school physics and is able to express ones thoughts in scientific language.
 nostr:npub1d3hrup0pe8f24c8dysc4gjh2gythrhvasyqh2wd0plvp3v3cnu5qhsfrtn "Do not ask weather the statement is true until you know what it means" -Errett Bishop
 nostr:npub1fjqqy4a93z5zsjwsfxqhc2764kvykfdyttvldkkkdera8dr78vhsmmleku Thank you for sharing your thoughts and resources, I will listen to the five hours of Jack Kruse and Andrew Huberman on Rick Rubin's podcast. (listed to the first hour already, sounds legit.)


Ok I don’t believe in determinism so you’re right, we do differ, and that’s ok 👍


determinism does not rule out entropy or chaotic dynamics, those can be created easily with feedback systems of all kinds... for example, the three body problem...


glad you found huberman and kruse interesting, they both know their stuff, and it's a bit off the mainstream health map, but of course - lots of money in wireless networks, it's big tobacco all over again if you ask me

in any case it's gonna be a moot point if the intensity of geomagnetic storms continues to escalate over the next 20 years, no radio will be working after another carrington event, lots of power wires catching fire, and all that

it's not about being afraid, it's being realistic - make a trajectory to be ready to go steam age for a decade possibly, and maybe consider moving somewhere far from the sea

when i realised that we really are looking at impending geomagnetic chaos - and you can see this by an uptick in whale beachings and problems with aircraft navigation systems now for almost a decade, there is no question that something bad is in the pipes

i think it could be terminal, but i'm just gonna assume it's steam age for a decade and work on that basis

i like food cooked with fire anyway


With huberman as a sanity check i can spend time on listening to random recommendations xD


Determinism assumes that truth is static and real, which can’t be the case because everything vibrates. I would say determinism is mostly the case but only within a single observational spacial point, the future and past cannot be fully observed and thus cannot be deterministic


Wtf has nothing to do with vibration or “truth”
I believe that every physical event has a consequence that is determined by laws of physics, as such every state is a consequence of a previous state in other words DETERMINED by the previous state.   I do not have guesses where the starting point was but everything what followed was determined by the starting state. Put in a sprinkle of multiverse theory and everything that can happen has happened. Biological bodies are part of physical realm hence no free will.
Please don’t mistaken this to nihilism.


The uncertainty principal proves determinism wrong.

Determinism would deny the validity or importance of categorical data, which I don’t agree with.


I’m surprised your profile picture has sunglasses after listening to a significant amount of Kruse 😉


they are class 5 IR blocking glasses that stop CCDs catching my eyes

i probably should not wear them all the time outside haha


i've done  a lot of experiments and self-observation regarding free will, it's a paradox

the entire phenomenon of learning is based on making decisions to respond in one way or another

from what i know of number theory it's just so far beyond predictable what it will do that it is effectively not possible to predict much of it

you really can't compare any two given experiences with each other because they simply are not the same


i think it's not that it isn't deterministic, but rather that it cannot be simulated accurately within the same system and thus is impossible to predict to any meaningful degree beyond some time horizon


abstractions are not erased by determinism, they are models not things, not subject to physical laws


Then explain chemistry


i work with 256 bit large integers all the time with my code and the number that they can count is more than the estimated number of atoms in the universe

almost everything in the physical universe has more state space, so, determinism in the sense of reproducability requires you to massively narrow down the possible states of a phenomena to funnel it through the one you want to recur, and it's not ever really a perfect repetition


what i just wrote before about the combinatorial complexity of states, this is even more the case as we are talking about the positions of gazillions of molecules and tehir associated particles (photons, electrons, protons, etc etc)

they only become predictable given control of their mixing within specific narrow conditions of their state space

reaction equilibrium, for example, relates to the level of energy lost in the transformation, and the energy required to undo this transformation - if you put too much energy in, it can go to other states instead

again, some of it doesn't do all the same thing, this is why purification is always a key step in chemistry... even 0.1% contamination can completely stop a reaction from taking place


i'm not saying that the world is not mostly deterministic, but the uncertainty principal makes 100% determinism impossible


i think it is logically impossible for a product of a system to model the system itself with enough precision to really see ethe future beyond a certain degree of detail of the states of the system

so it's not that it isn't predictable, it can't be predicted by us

by God yes, not by us, nor anything within this universe


Potato’s make electricity. I have 10,000 in my backyard powering a s9

Science 🌈


For welding?


for cameras to not capture images of my face that can me automatically recognised


Ahh, smart


they could, by fermenting them into alcohol fuel :D


in order to make the effort to do any science at all you have to make the assumption that the system's parameters can be contained such that you can artificially cause an effect to occur

it is illogical to assume that you can't do this and the advance of science is entirely about discovering the conditions of replication, and has not ceased to allow us to uncover new things for thousands of years at least


yeah, i've tested it... outside in bright sunshine, a photo of my face all you see when you crank up the brightness is the lenses become mirrors, because they are blocking all light the camera is receiving through from the inside


and yes they are welding safety glasses... not as dark as the kind on the masks but very dark.. plenty dark enough to stop CCDs, which are IR sensitive, from registering anything through them


See? I know stuff 😂😂😂😂


well you could fead the taters to pigs and catch the gas from their poop too


nothing is 100% probable bro believe it or not you could die at any moment


Sory, this is just a word salad


Fuck just go back to school bro


Oh man thank you 🤗 🤗


Y so rude


That’s not what my dad says 🥹👍


Than ask him to come debate,maybe he’s able to express himself in coherent language


Just wanted to insert myself with some nonsense to break up the intelligence 😂


Opposite, you have rescued the most braindead convo on the protocol


Aww. You haven’t read my poop thread yet 🫂 you flatter me


Lol 😅


Yep ✌


Did unfollow you already so i don’t have to get rude again. Bye 😘