Has anyone considered a weekly nostr devs call? Seems like it could be useful for keeping devs on the same page and aware of one anothers' pain points. #asknostr


Yes.


👀 I feel weekly might be a lot, but perhaps monthly? nostr:npub1zafcms4xya5ap9zr7xxr0jlrtrattwlesytn2s42030lzu0dwlzqpd26k5 and I have chatted about things like this. Excited to hear what the devs think


Oo
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I've been saying collaboration over competition....

Let's goooooooooo!


Let's gooooooooooo!
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A very good idea 💡


Yeah, Weekly would come around fast for everyone id imagine


Is there anything like bitcointalk for nostr yet?


Be good (hillarious) to have the peanut gallery (non devs) have a simultaneous call and be in the dev call to just listen and banter away separately

Basically like jre fight nights 😂


Onward 🫡

Onward 🫡


Some scattered telegram channels, hashtags, but nothing anyone has really coalesced on to my knowledge.


Probably so. I want to make it easy for people to join and not get overwhelmed by busywork, so maybe monthly is better.


That would be great. Nests now has chat, so at least there's that


Might be a good route to consider with devs being scattered all over the globe in different time zones.

Just checked and nostrtalk.org is available for $8 bucks rn!


wat


On name cheap. Let me know if you’re gonna snag it cus if you don’t I probably will haha. I could just sit on it until someone is ready to build and the. Would be happy to donate to whoever wants to build it.


Not any more


I wonder if that’s cus it was just in my cart… try again and if you still strike out I’ll just buy it and hold onto it
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Great idea!


Damn you’re right gonzo now! Which one of you assholes in the chat snaked it!!


We started one for snort and zapstream but might be useful to have across clients!


:YES:


Aye aye, have a separate one for non devs so the general public can understand what is happening. Sometimes, you're speaking another language.


Sounds like a job for corny chat! nostr:npub1yx6pjypd4r7qh2gysjhvjd9l2km6hnm4amdnjyjw3467fy05rf0qfp7kza


Has anyone considered a weekly nostr devs call? Seems like it could be useful for keeping devs on the same page and aware of one anothers' pain points. #asknostr


Happy to help coordinate. This feels like a #nostrability topic.

I had floated the idea with a few devs - maybe nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s and nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr (dont remember) a few months back.

What I recall is that devs dont like meetings for meetings sake. Open ended / agenda less meetings may not be useful for most devs.

However, if we host a topical nest - for instance what is the nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 way to implement gossip, what works, what is still uncertain about it, and we record it this could be a bit more useful.

We could use asynchronous question form like ahead of the nest to gather the major questions from devs.


Thank for the tag Vanessa 🙏

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Yes this is true, a regular meeting for meeting sake would not survive, a topical meeting is not very useful periodically either.. I'm kinda oldskool, the only kind of meeting I think *could be useful here on a periodic basis would be patterned after a standup (an extended standup that does not have to be super fast like a reg daily standup would be and could expand into topics up to an hour or so).  Whats everyone working on, how does it match with what others are working on, any help needed in which areas and where and when to communicate further.

I did say useful, I'm also down to have a couple un-useful meetings here and there..


Yes! That makes sense a lot


Would be even fun just to listen


I would join that call.


Onward 🫡

Onward 🫡


Nobody likes the meetings for the meetings sake. Why don’t we expand the idea to not only protocol and client devs, but also to packages and tools that are being developed


Great Idea

Great Idea


I'm in. Not sure I would do every week, but definitely once a month I could join.


do it over nostrnests.com and we can all listen in 😉


not a dev but sounds good hod/l/bod, t-y


I have brought this up before. But I have no reach… The need for devs to be connected is real. More than just “shop talk” and “pain points” (and even alignment opportunities) for current projects … developers are human beings as well. We need to “hang out” and get to know each other. New faces and new ideas will benefit from more than just kind 1 chats and git issues threads.

So yea … I’m down to co-host.


Yes. A hashtag #devchat for anybody to post a question to at anytime might actually be useful.


> “Open ended / agenda less meetings may not be useful for most devs. However, if we host a topical nest … and we record it this could be a bit more useful.” nostr:npub1zafcms4xya5ap9zr7xxr0jlrtrattwlesytn2s42030lzu0dwlzqpd26k5

I kinda disagree. Yea, we don’t wanna waste anybody’s time with an agenda-less formal meeting … but having a predetermined topic and a reserved “stage” just isn’t conducive for new devs or new ideas to surface and be known.

Devs need a space (time and place) for discussion, but informality itself is an important variable to leverage.

For this case, an open ended “dev beer thirty” might also be valuable.


I don't know, Alby community calls seem to do well. People are always excited to show off what they've been working on. Think of it like a podcast — it's possible for quality to degrade because you have to meet your content quota, but that only really happens if the participants aren't interested in the project any more.


No haha it was me


Oh sick! I was honestly so bummed yesterday when I thought I publicized it just for some other person to swipe it 😂. Super happy to hear you secured it. Can’t think of a better caretaker of such a good domain 🤝


I was thinking about this last week. I was more interested in newbies, but we need more coordination for sure. I'm in


100% Would love to see it.


Now I need to figure out what I want to do with it. It would be cool to combine a white-labeled version of Coracle with some kind of always-on nests room or something. Will have to think about it.


WOULD BE HAPPY TO HOST ON DISPATCH IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.


LFG, we already had the first one there so good fit


That could be a good place for it. I do want to have something more free form and informal, it would be less of a panel sort of format. A large audience might actually detract from the quality of conversation.


That’s an excellent idea 💡

Don’t discount the value of a good old fashioned text based forum either though! A simple web client with nsec login, good ui for longer form posts, and zaps would be a huge community asset. Then maybe plug in the always on chat room feature when the time is right.

The only hurdle I could see with the simple forum would be the need for content moderation to keep the convo focused. Idk where to would even start with that..


This thread just made my warm fuzzies meter peak.


Weekly devs call?
We're in!

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We're already in, every two weeks for ALBY COMMUNITY CALLS - where devs, users and regular plebs meet to present and discuss recent lightning updates ⚡ ⚡ ⚡

Sign up for the next one at https://cal.com/getalby/communitycall - you can demo your project or just tune in and listen 💙💙


This is true - Alby community calls are useful if you’d like to hear what other devs are up to.

Such a call does not necessarily contradict with focused dev calls (for instance gossip dev call).


As an outsider looking in it’s confusing 🫤

1. Do you go after bounties & seek to fulfill it & the first one wins? Coordinating tasks with others would seem better.

2. Is there no project manager since many are working on the same issues?


Bounties I think have some utility, but they've mostly been abandoned. We mostly work on what we want, and either apply for bounties or try to build a business (no one's been successful yet). There's some collaboration, some competition, and a lot of chaos, because we're all building different products on one protocol.


Appreciate the explanation. Thanks so much. 🙏


Onward 🫡

Onward 🫡


I'm not a dev, but I'd pay money to listen in 😃