now I should also be able to start lightning lnd but I was getting errors: 
[ERR] LTND: unable to create partial chain control: unable to determine if bitcoind is pruned: unable to detect bitcoind version

I vaguely remember nostr:npub18ams6ewn5aj2n3wt2qawzglx9mr4nzksxhvrdc4gzrecw7n5tvjqctp424 posted about a special config flag and after some digging around that was it:

nostr:note18lz63u08tdtxslhznayxw6sq6f7t0mu4vtt6fd6lvfxek0h29d9qtgf8hm

lnd can’t connect to bitcoin core v28 without it, after adding the flag the problem went away and my lightning channels are back online.