Oddbean new post about login | logout Large accounts ask stupid questions, sometimes. They have no clue how Nostr works for the other 99%.
Their entire experience of Nostr interaction is so different that they might as well be posting on the moon.
I strongly suspect that the Nostr experience for plebs is orders of magnitude worse than for large accounts. The 1% experience smooths over so many of the technical issues. Not saying they can’t be resolved, just that the “large follower” experience, currently, is not representative of the 99% experience at all… so be wary of influencer opinions on Nostr in general.
There's also simply the aspect of time. Npubs that have been around longer don't only tend to have more followers, they are also on the "recommended" lists, have stratospheric WoT scores, and every fart they make trends. So new npubs automatically follow them and they make zero effort to attract anyone with better content. They post lacadaisically or seldomly, and often just wash-rinse-repeat the same sort of thing over and over, which is why Nostr seems so dull. The funnel effect has been so strong that they had no incentive to change or think about how to attract more followers, and that has made them intellectually lazy and arrogant. So, when they see someone more ambitious using novel tactics they're like LOL. But we have DVMs, now...
at least today I learned the word "lackadaisically"
Yes lol, and some of the these accounts are just carrying over bitcointwitter clout which is sadly lapped up. Still a long way to go from being a bitcointwitter clone/off shoot,. culturally. Once feeds work properly and are on most/all clients, is probably the best shot at changing nostr for the better 🤞🤞 hopefully.
I don't even look at my nostr follower counts because it's unclear how accurate they are and different clients report significantly different counts 🙃
I have a lot of people that follow me. I have plenty of pain points, just like you do. Nostr has issues for everyone. What do you think I am not understanding or missing? I
You're one of the only ones who has a clue. 😂
it's also interesting that it prompted a response
I strive to be a voice for the plebs that cannot be heard and try to make them heard 🫂
i am here to make people see into the darkness and realise the light that they didn't see so i also respond for similar but different reasons i'm not a big account, i actively offend my followers because i don't care about their fawning i'm here for the advancement of collective understanding
The new thing is asking why it matters how many followers you have. It's like... Go to the trendlists. Go to the wikis. Go to the git clients. Go to the article readers. Go to the search fields. Go to... Whose stuff do you see, everywhere? You see my stuff, right? Why do you think you see it? Thank you for playing.
the new thing is being provocative turns out that saying no and disagreeing is the new agreeing and saying yes
tension = retention... and the algo gets the bad rep, right?
Anything novel is provocative and upsetting to someone (usually most people, as humans eschew change). Sometimes I formulate things mildly, sometimes I agitate, but it makes no tangible difference. People who are ready for a message accept it regardless off the tone, and people who aren't, don't.
Thank you 🫂😂 I try to make it my mission to understand all of the pain points that people have so that we can improve and grow Nostr.
But generally 1) Why npubs boost their own notes, including replies. 2) Why npubs care about follower count. 3) The importance of seemingly pointless rituals, like GM notes or hellthreads. 4) How trendlists work. 5) Dealing with harrassment. 6) Trying to start off a new npub, when you don't know anyone here and have a WoT score of 0. 7) How quickly new npubs become discouraged by negative feedback. 8) The importance of relay management.
Fire list. I'll start adding these to my how do Nostr notes.
GN! PV! 🤙
WoT score?
Web of Trust
@Dawn things to consider idk if they are entirely applicable to what you are working on tho 💜
Not really... I'm just making a guide on how to use amethyst. If it's not a total flop, maybe I'll try some other guides too but that is yet to be seen
Make sure you put it in the wiki!
Wiki? Do I post to that??
It's a specific kind of article, so no.
For research papers? For developer? What kind?
I mean "kind" literally. As in, "kind" of article event. It has a different identifying number embedded in the underlying json file.
Pfft! Lol, gotcha!
What’s point 7 about?
How some bigger, older npubs attack newer, smaller npubs, and sic their cronies on them.
Damn, I need to pay more attention, I have no idea this is a thing
I call them pile-on mobs.
Sadly, a lot of people like to just support the OP and are afraid to be an individual.
😂 Well, there's a pile-on under way on me, so yay.
This tactic seems to occur on every social network that supports quote posting.
Rage-quoting?
Or just call it "dunking" / sending in your mooks. If you haven't read it before, I highly recommend this essay: https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2020/01/16/the-internet-of-beefs/
OMG, really??? I was not aware
what do you mean relay management 👀
Here. Take this microphone.... 🎙
100%. No interactions on any content I post, just an army of bot accounts following me. Getting anything to propagate seems nearly impossible. I feel like if I put “Software developer” in my bio, the Nostr crowd might actually be receptive to it.
Had to refollow you. Guess it got dropped.
