Some really funky things happening with dominion machines...

https://v.nostr.build/lHNtsDxbw9ws1N45.mp4
https://v.nostr.build/S5hkDUI2fLuTDmBQ.mp4


Look at that!


Also seen a few where they select T on screen and the paper ballot that prints out has K ...


These machines were written in css/JavaScript
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Probably happens just enough to have the “right” effect.


I can do this on my phone right now if I try to tap the utmost corner of the LCD screen or a tiny box. Tap the middle of the box in the middle of the object action area and the touches would register much better most likely. It could also be shitty LCD screens too. Really shitty Android tablets will function this way.


What’s wrong with pen and paper and your darken the dot of the candidate you choose?
Are these machines standard everywhere?


Makes it harder to cheat


Their finger isn't touching the corner ... And ten times?


Yes. Are these standard everywhere in the states?


The machines are pretty standard. Then they print to paper that you insert for counting.

I've seen some cases where you select one on screen and the paper it prints out is switched


The corner of the screen in the first video and the corner of the object box in the second video. I just see shitty programming and shitty LCD screens. Most likely they kept touching so hard to get it to select Trump that their finger barely touched the screen below over top of Harris.

As I said, I've bought shitty Android tablets that do exactly this. The touch sensitivity is absolute garbage on them. I can't see foul play when I've experienced this many times myself.

Think about it? If someone is going to cheat, they're not going to do it in plain sight. The cheating would happen under the hood, in the software. What does showing a wrong selection do? Nothing besides make people choose whom they originally wanted. You're not a very good criminal or cheater if you tell everyone you're cheating.


I'm glad in my area we still use paper bolts.


Is it that the machines are horrible quality? Is there some corruption going on with the company who makes them? Or purposefully made to change results? The latter sounds like some third world country BS. Primer not great either.


I'm not sure how ubiquitous they are in the US, but I haven't heard of any other systems. It would make sense that it was centralised if they wanted to mess with the results.


Could it be that the machines are terrible quality? Maybe rushed to production, and the company gave lots of corruption money to make sure the machines are everywhere?


Remember when they hung all those Chads?


No…what?


Thanks. What I don’t get is the voter knows what constitutes a valid and an invalid vote. Why so many invalid ballots…right…that’s where it happened


People are lazy and hope for the best.  Remain vigilant!


Could be intentional. Then again it could be like that time the drill sergeant was asked why we have to spend so much time cleaning our rifles: "Because it was made by the lowest bidder, Private!"

You'd be surprised (or not) at how often public sector workers have to take unscheduled vacation due to a software or network problem that makes it impossible to do their job. In the private sector, they'd just hand you a mop or paint brush.

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Yeah, certainly a possibility. There's a lot of mixed information regarding those machines, like I heard links to Ukraine and them being used in Venezuela, but when looking it up I couldn't verify those claims.

I try to remain unbiased since I have no dog in the fight and I'm not American, but I think the evidence for cheating in 2020 is quite clear, but how much they relied on the machines to do so is difficult to say.


What I don’t understand is: they used the ballots to show that paper and pencil votes were inefficient. But why would it become inefficient only that year specifically. Was there similar issues in the past?


I don't think so. I mean, the number one issue is how they fight against voter ID and try to call it racist. It literally makes no sense.


Why would people do it wrong? Usually people take elections seriously. Doesn’t make sense unless they gave them bad instructions OR fraud


I think all of the above are possible. I do find it interesting that the errors seem to go only one way. I think it's worth discussing and that's why I posted it


Oh wait…so the erroneous ballots were always votes for Red?


Trend towards Blue from what I've seen. The anomalies always seemed to


Derek, I appreciate you. I know we sit on different sides of this but I like that on nostr we follow each other and talk about it even if we don't agree.

I posted it because I think it's worth discussing. I find it interesting that these "glitches" seem to only go in one direction. Have you seen it go in the other direction?  Not being sarcastic here but tone doesn't carry well online.

Second, I do think small scale fraud/cheating is possible and in an election that was as close as the last or this that can have big impacts. Last there are videos of people in leadership positions within dominion gloating about how they rigged things.

So could it be faulty hardware sure... could it be more ... I think so. I don't expect you to agree and that's life.


I want to make sure I understand. The erroneous ballots were votes for Republicans…and then they changed it to Democrats?


At least the videos and call outs I've seen were votes for Red changed to blue. Would genuinely want to see the evidence of errors go the other way


From what I've seen, yes.

I've also seen videos of people who never voted but were marked as voting for Democrats. I can think of a single instance of seeing these issues go towards Republicans, which is why it seems so suspicious.


Wait I’m confused. I was talking about what John mentionned in 2020. So they did the same in 2020 and now?


I don't know... Could be either but there are leaked videos of higher ups in dominion gloating about rigging things. Also hard to know if those are real


Definitely an interesting subject


It’s definitely suspicious


They are not voting hard enough,


Vote harder.
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Everyone seems to forget the Bush vs Gore.   Fake ballots, legal arguments etc etc etc.

This shit has been happening forever. Every single election is 100% fraud.


So this happenned before. And that time I imagine it was only paper ballots?


I think with anything that involves 300+ million people there is fraud. The effort has always been to minimize it so results are valid ish...

For example last place I worked, 50% of online purchase attempts were fraud... So you had to reduce the ones you accept to minimal or business fails


I don’t remember if it was “only paper” or a mix but miscounting & stealing elections has been around a long time.
Bush had to be elected. The father of 9/11 had to be in place. No way he wasn’t getting in.


50% is invalid in order to keep the business going. So purchase marked as fraud: null and void. Did they do the same with the election: where they just cancelled the fraudulous ballots? Or they changed them?


No idea 😁


Use Splunk. Ingest logs, find trends, identify fraud.

It doesn’t have to be as fraudulent as it is. 300m people or not. IMO.


So that time it was the other way around? They used fraud to elect the red?


I guess it amounts to the same. Wether you cancel a bunch of ballots from side 1 or you change them to side 2, it’s still an advantage for side 2


Very good questions. ☝


YUP. 👍


Exactly. 👍


This is a good point for BS election. Makes sense if they skew it one way or the other. OR massive incompetence/corruption here and there


Appreciate the nuanced discussion gents!


It's cool man. We good.

I haven't seen anything going the other way because I don't really pay attention to this. If it comes across my feed I'll commet on it.

It's all just so tiring and mentally draining. After the last election where Republicans claimed fraud and every single instance of fraud was done by a Republican voting for Trump, it seems like it's projection as normal. Could there be more fraud on the other side? Yes. We just haven't seen it yet.

IMO, since Trump has been claiming fraud for months, he's been setting the narrative. If you say something enough times, people will believe it. Even if it's not true, they'll question it. This is all that is happening here, IMO. Remember. Dude is a liar, a criminal, a grifter, etc. He always has been. What makes this any different than his past actions? If people tell you who they are, we should believe them.

So, question it and look for answers? Absolutely. That's what I did here. From my experiences, to me, this looks like a legitimate technical issue. It could be large scale or it could also be a few faulty units. People return mobile devices all of the time because of bad LCD panel batches. I have.

I remember buying a cheap Acer tablet for my son from Walmart. It functioned just like these videos. I returned it. Maybe this is what needs to happen here 😂 Go back to paer ballots. My technology backwards county still uses paper ballots. They're just counted via machine. Machines that I helped install back in 2006-ish.


Succession planning for a new CEO.  Selected by a few,  not the many.
This election is tough because both candidates are essentially the same as it relates to Israel, Palestine, Iran etc etc.

The war machine decides fates. That’s why this is still a toss up.


Complex subject. Unfortunately we’ll probably never know all the truth. Very interesting. Thanks


:lol:


Simple in its complexity.

Now look into popular vote vs electoral college. That will spin your head.

Pennsylvania is the only state that matters in this US election. Literally.


Popular vote vs electoral college is not the same but similar still to popular vote vs first-past-the-post we have 🍁. The more complex you make the system, the easier it is to “skew” the popular vote 🤷🏾♂


Understood and agreed on the dude is not a good man. I would say it's hard to have a good character person that high up in politics nowadays. I am also tired and I have also bought my share of cheap android tablets and have had screen issues.

I mentioned this in another thread but worked at a place where 50% of online purchase attempts were fraudulent so in a system with this many people I expect it. Part of modern times unfortunately.

I don't expect either side to fix the country so most my energy goes towards btc. Not sure that fixes everything either tbh but more hopeful.

Appreciate you and your thoughts.


They should cut the shit and just keep it simple. Popular vote. That’s it. That’s the system.  Then watch hoe they start kissing our asses


*watch how


If you want a head scratcher, look up after Trump won in 2016, how many times Kamala is on record in rallies and in media saying that "Paper ballots are better because Russia can't hack a piece of paper".

And how she now is all for electronic voting and post ballots.


Agree. It's going to take a lot more than one election to fix this shit show. We'll need several of them and many years.


I have a lot of difficulty believing politicians in general. But career politicians are the worst of them. Like weathervanes

https://media1.tenor.com/m/9RjYFCMvv6wAAAAd/weathervane.gif


Worse than weathervanes.
Weathervanes are somewhat useful.


Tip your waitresses. Enjoy your evening. Drive safe.


Some really funky things happening with dominion machines...

https://v.nostr.build/lHNtsDxbw9ws1N45.mp4
https://v.nostr.build/S5hkDUI2fLuTDmBQ.mp4


Appears to be working as intended.


rigging


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Dereck you can’t possibly believe there was nothing fraudulent from the D’s in the 2020 election. You are much smarter than that.

Answer me this. If in one of the most critical counties in the most critical states, the losing Republican candidate was suddenly getting a last minute surge of votes, and the Dem validators were shoved out of the room, the door was locked, and ONLY the republican checkers were in the room, and the Republican candidate ended up winning with a landslide of last minute votes. The when the Dems contested it, after literal physical altercations with police trying to get in the room to do the ONE job that is required for them to do. Then it goes to court and instead of getting verification and a simple count, it’s declared “legitimate” because they could see through the window 40 feet away that the vote was being tallied by a room full of Republicans… Tell me you don’t have a problem with that scenario and that you would just trust them.

I cannot believe you are that dense because I have too much respect for you


They don't count absentee and mail in ballots and tally them live. They're counted and added in bulk. This graphic looks accurate to me.


I don't remember any of that happening. I just remember people upset and not understanding how mail in and absentee ballots work.


I think that Democrats skewing towards mail-in at the time gives this credibility, but I think there were too many anomalies to dismiss the entire thing. It doesn't look right to me.

It goes both ways though. In 2016, it was the other side calling fraud.

I say this as an outsider who isn't a fan of Trump outside of entertainment value.

One thing I will never understand is the persistence against voter ID, which would theoretically protect everyone involved.


The neocons in the Republican Party rigged the Florida count in 2000, and the neocons in then Democratic Party rigged the Pennsylvania vote count in 2020.

The only reason why you can't come to terms with that reality is this irrational identification with a party label.


I voted straight Republican for 20+ years. What's my label?


Agree there. Proper voter ID and voting as a federal holiday so that all registered voters can vote.


I think you will always "find" what youre looking for if you look hard enough. And i think voting machines are garbage. Combine those things and you have people who have been told "they're going to cheat to win the election", "finding" ways that they're being cheated via garbage voting machines. And social media adds gas to the fire.


Absolutely. You can connect the dots to any data points if you try hard enough.


Yup, holiday would be a step in the right direction too. Unfortunately I have lost all faith in voting due to lack of real change between parties. No matter who is in, things have been trending down for all people, except those in government.


Guatemala model


I guess "neocon" suits you, then.


How would it look different if there actually was cheating?


We don't really know. It's so extremely rare.

For example in my state, Pennsylvania, 39 cases of voter fraud were identified or 0.000039% of the more than 100+ million ballots cast over the last 30 years.