If you think nostr:npub1xnf02f60r9v0e5kty33a404dm79zr7z2eepyrk5gsq3m7pwvsz2sazlpr5 is an attack on Lightning then you can kindly take my 🫂 and 🤙🏻 and ponder this for a moment. The vast majority of people on our planet will NEVER run a full Lightning node on a computer in their home.

However, they will absolutely unknowingly run a embedded Lightning node on their phone (or in other device). Most people do not give a shit about how the technology works. They just want it to work and work without issue. For technology to be the most successful, it should fade into the background.

End rant.


This all sounds pretty true to me.


I 100% agree with you on this. What Zeus and Green are doing in my opinion is the right path. There is still work to do. And who knows, maybe it doesn’t work out.

But we definitely need at least try to remove as much of hurdles so that normal people can use these technologies while staying as sovereign as possible.

Let’s not forget, this is a good middle ground. Between a number of great products. Each can choose what they are comfortable with. More options, would get more people into the space.


This is just plain correct imo.
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I am not in disagreement.


Nothing but love for nostr:npub1xnf02f60r9v0e5kty33a404dm79zr7z2eepyrk5gsq3m7pwvsz2sazlpr5 and what they are doing! 💜⚡🙌🏻


Cool tech. Gives more options to the consumer


I think the same


it sounds like we have more solutions to work out then 😉 and by we, i mostly mean you and evan 😆


Zapped 21 from a Zeus user.


100% agree. And as Peter McCormack says in the latest podcast with Christian Decker from Green.

“I dont want to know how it works. Thats for the developers to figure out. I just want it to work.”

And I completely agree. If everyone should know everything about everything life would be way too complicated. And it’s complicated enough as it is.


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I’ve been saying the same 🤷♂ people will have to learn to accept this eventuality


Why do people think of it as an attack?


Running Zeus has been as reliable or better than when I ran LND and CLN on Start 9.


No kidding, that's why we Devs and nostriches stick together


I always say those to who don't care about the Tech,

its not my problem but don't come running to me begging to bail you out when the Tech fries you.


We're all maxis here but the reality of life is that most folk are happy to use custodial services to abstract away the technical issues. They just don't care. If there are so few maxis running a node, how can we expect n00bs to the space to understand why they should and actually do it?


I believe that's because Zeus mobile node is a pruned node which doesn't store the full history of the time chain.

Some people might think that if less people are running nodes with full history and more runs just pruned nodes, it might weaken the network 🤔


some people in this space dish out the word 'attack' so much it loses its meaning


The power of bitcoin is that you can take your funds in self custody whenever you want, without permission. It does not mean you should always self-custody, for some people that is just too difficult!


Not attacking bitcoin is an attack on bitcoin


If it's going to be the world's reserve currently and the future of payments and invoicing then we better stress test the shit out of it. Break all the things! Make it better! This is the way!


It's hard to predict on that, my grandfather for example knew many things like building a suit, a shirt taking care of the farm and all animals, fixing the tractor engine at a high level, his sister was the same and many people of their generation. Maybe on a bitcoin standard will be less division of labour and people will learn to do more stuff by themselves just because money, true money costs too much to simply give away.


If you think nostr:npub1xnf02f60r9v0e5kty33a404dm79zr7z2eepyrk5gsq3m7pwvsz2sazlpr5 is an attack on Lightning then you can kindly take my 🫂 and 🤙🏻 and ponder this for a moment. The vast majority of people on our planet will NEVER run a full Lightning node on a computer in their home.

However, they will absolutely unknowingly run a embedded Lightning node on their phone (or in other device). Most people do not give a shit about how the technology works. They just want it to work and work without issue. For technology to be the most successful, it should fade into the background.

End rant.


Zapped from my zeus self hosted node. Love a rant 🤙 and this is true, people need stuff like this. It’s not easy understanding lightning channels and funding. We need to accelerate onboarding, our freedom window is closing fast


This only applies in the broken system of today. #Bitcoin fixes this.

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