Subscriber feeds coming #soon to Amethyst? 👀

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Wow, this will unlock a ton of possibilities. Looking forward to seeing what people do with it!


Yep, the post goes through public relays. It's basically a GiftWrapped DM, but using kind 1 instead of the new DM kind. Replies/likes can be GiftWrapped as well. The app will simply send posts to everybody that paid (have a zap payment to the subscription event) in that month.


The replies are public… funny enough i think thats the more interesting way!

People will be intrigued. And may want to join.


Nice!

This is what it looks like to a non subscriber:

https://i.nostr.build/GXy7.jpg


Not yet. I am testing a few alternatives before suggesting a NIP. This test post didn't use a subscription event. I just sent a private kind1 as if Derek was subscribed.


Great. So global is gonna be a bunch of thirsty people replying to posts I'll never see 😂

Amazing idea though!


From: nostr:npub134lfcqtw0rwzpey20suye7gjxep2ts6lhqemp7c4zhxe8jsj24wqqzelwh


Muito bom, Vitor.


nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z How much to sub?


Each person decides their rate for the paid feed.


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oh wow, smart


How do we know this isn't a faked screenshot 😉

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We're working on subscriptions, should collab here. I have a bunch of ideas on how it could work


He well and truly has beaten me to the punch with NostrFans on this one 😢😅

This is a very clever implementation too. Mine required you to sign into another app with hardcoded nsfw private relays etc.

Having the function built directly into the biggest Nostr Android app, much less friction, and there's less "feeling dirty" that can drive people off dedicated adult platforms, and literally you just tell people "follow me on Nostr nostr:npub128mg00dxa06nkc6pjzf9cfear7p6wleq79mqkcxztx9wev3ur7gqknxyh7 and buy a subscription to see the best shit."

And yes this will happen. It's a no-brainer for a model. Get ~30% of your revenue taken by a centralised platform or use Nostr and run everything pretty much identical but no middleman taking high fees and, well, let's just say with LN, it's up to you how much you wanna declare 😏

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Sure thing. What's the best way to work with you?


Our matrix is where we primarily do our work communication

https://matrix.to/#/%23mutiny-community:lightninghackers.com


So this is a bit of game theory then: you get your subscription cancelled if you expose content because there is a watermark ?


So if a content creator had 1 million subscribers, they would push 1 million giftwrapped events to their write relays?


I shared my thoughts on paywalls many times, so I'll spare you my thoughts and will just say that's neat and all but I believe it's the wrong approach.

Copy-paste will work too, always, as does OCR. OCR on Android is one click:

This is a Private note only Derek can see. This is a test of a new paid subscriber feed to be released by Amethyst in the upcommng weeks. This post cannot be verified by anybody else. The only way to expose this content to others is by taking a screenshot and posting it. But they will never be able to verify the veracity of this post. This system uses Sealed GiftWraps premium followers exclusive content wihtout allowing them to rebroadcast it to non payers.


Ok, but I'm still not able to verify that nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z really said that.
🤷


Doesn't matter imho, as long as someone can verify.

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(not trying to discourage development btw, not at all. Just sharing my thoughts as most people haven't thought about these issues deeply yet, and I'm convinced there are better alternatives. In the end the users/market will decide.)


There's two different things:

1- keeping information behind a paywall.
2- keeping the verification to some people

OnlyFans success shows us that #1 works <well enough> for people to spend some sats to climb those paywalls.
We know that information could be broadcasted to the world, but still nowadays OnlyFans is a thing.

nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z 's proposal allows to implement #1 well enough, and even adding #2 to it.


Yeah, that's fine.

#1 is basically patronage plus early access, which is fine. But the good OnlyFans content is accessible for free to all eventually, as to my point.

What I'm trying to say is that I believe there is a better model than artificially restricting access to information. But again, I'm all for this kind of experimentation. Time will tell.


We'll see how this space evolve!

Let's hope for the future to be decentralised 🫂


I think there are use cases for both. Let's implement everything and see who wins :)


👀 private feed test 🚀

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Subscriber feeds coming #soon to Amethyst? 👀

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قريبا قد تكون هناك ميزة قادمة وهي " المنشورات للمشتركين " في حسابك فقط تحدد من يظهر له هذا المنشور و تحديد المنشور فقط للمشتركين معك في حسابك قد نرى هذه الميزة قريبا في التحديثات القادمة لـ amythest#

#nostr

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There are numerous implementation cases of subscriptions, different effects can be desired and achieved: early access, exclusive access (Gigi's point is valid), nft-like bragging rights, certification of origin. Or simply allowing people to vote with their sats and support a cause/person on a regular basis, whatever the perks.

There's so much more good than challenges that come from this.
There needn't be one implementation only.


I'm in this camp. I believe value for value has it's use cases and believe subscriptions have their use cases too. One model may not be the best for a particular use case. We won't know until we try it.


I'm excited to see this collaboration 🤝🏻 Keep building and taking Bitcoin and Nostr to the next level.


Birdman hand rub.

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なんだなんだ？

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We all love Gigi 🤍


Please. Build NOSTRFANS!