Oddbean new post about login | logout If you want privacy without anonymity, nostr will likely never be the right protocol to use for communication.
Because of the non private DMs? Or the relays seeing the IP addresses?
Because unless you're using the protocol privately with 2 private personal relays interacting with each other that dont broadcast but between themselves, then everyone can see the data. Even with encryption unless you're anon, you can link communication to your person. Theres no problem if you're anon. No problem with any protocol of your ospec is good.
That makes a lot of sense. And another reason why people should stop recommending clients that link the npub to the kyc wallet 💀
Strike already collecting the data on here 😉
I think of you want to promote privacy coms, then you shouldn't be recommending nostr at all. You should be teaching opsec.
What’s your opinion on Simplex and Threema for privacy coms ?
Simplex seems to be the most promising. It's be great to see a nostr client integrate simplex instead of the best devs trying to hack around how to make nostr Dms work and be private. I mean if you need private coms, you should just use pgp. It's... Pretty good.
I didn’t mean for integration with nostr in particular. Just in general. Do you think they’re both private enough for messaging?
I actually don't know of the second one you sent and I don't have enough experience to say for sure on simplexx. I like simplex a whole lot more than signal though.
Check this: SecureMessagingApps.com Rate: 🟩=3 🟨=1 🟥=0 Results (and where the money comes from) 1. Threema = 86 = most secure Messenger (User pays one-time) 2. Signal (OTF / Brian Acton / Ex-WhatsApp) = 80 3. Session (Loki Coin & suspicious Chinese) = 77 4. Wire (Janus Fries / Ex-Skype) = 68 5. SimpleX Chat *= 67 6. Wickr (Amazon) = 61 7. Element / Matrix (Amdocs / Morris Kahn) = 56 8. Apple iMessage (Hardware sales) = 37 9. WhatsApp (Meta) = 32 10. Google Messages (Ads) = 28 11. Telegram (Putin) = 27 12. Facebook Messenger (Meta) = 26 13. Microsoft Skype =10 * SimpleX Chat got 380.000 $ from VillageGlobal.vc = Jez Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect. OFT = OpenTechnologyFund = US-Goverment
I keep seeing on nostr you own your data, but that's not really true. Any relay that stores your notes owns your data. That's good for censorship resistance but terrible for opsec. They're juxtaposed.
You own your identity. The data is public
Yes, but you can carry your identity with you in ways you can't with twitter or the rest of walled garden en-shittification-land. So, to your point you own your ident, on nostr.
Good thought...