Just a week in and GrapheneOS already supports the Pixel 9, Pixel 9 Pro and Pixel 9 Pro XL.

Gotta love open source.


I wish I could install GrapheneOS on my Pixel Fold but its from T–Mobile


:pepflex:


Onward 🫡

Onward 🫡


At least you know never to buy from carrier again, imagine paying for your device and not being able to do what you want with it. Carriers suck


Yeah I know lol


it's weird that you need a google phone to avoid the google universe.


Why use graphene over calyxos?


Only until you realize every manufacturer locks you in. It's not about a avoiding Google specifically, it's about avoiding the manufacturers control over you and your data.


Support is not officially available yet.


Got it... But I just bought the pixel8pro on discount to degoogle a phone (ironic) and chose calyxos..... Was just interested in opinion on the choice between calyxos and grapheme...


Why did you chose calyxes though?


How can we avoid this?


wow I was sleeping. I was not aware that these were official already. thanks!


buying used or.  buy from Google


Wish they would add support for Samsung phones


GrapheneOS and CalyxOS are very different. GrapheneOS is a hardened OS with substantial privacy/security improvements:

grapheneos.org/features

CalyxOS is not a hardened OS. It greatly reduces security vs. AOSP via added attack surface, rolled back security and slow patches.

Compatibility with Android apps is also much different. GrapheneOS provides our sandboxed Google Play compatibility layer:

grapheneos.org/usage#sandboxe…

Can run vast majority of Play Store apps on GrapheneOS, but not CalyxOS with the far more limited and less secure microG approach.

https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm is a third party comparison between different alternate mobile operating systems. It could include many more privacy/security features but it's a good starting point.

https://privsec.dev/posts/android/choosing-your-android-based-operating-system/ is an article with more long form comparisons between OSes.


Samsung doesn't want it.


Thanks so much for your insight...  I all look into it.... After all I am open to switch.....


What, like they actively try to block it?


No that hard. They just don't need to publish their drivers + code.


Onward 🫡

Onward 🫡


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Saw a video where they said grapheme just anonymized data and sanboxes stuff whyle calyx gets rid of all the google.... Sounded compelling but I might be wrong or mislead... And also not that deeply knowledge about the differences


as far as I know, that's not true at all !


Yeah this seems to be the consensus here... I already wrapping it up.... And preparing to wipe the device and try the grapheme
Just a nuisance is unhinging certain 2fa apps.... Bit planning to reset it until sunday


Are you sure you're still locked in?  From my experience, the lock-in is only for a period of time, typically 1 year, so after that locked time elapses you can contact them to unlock the phone.