should freedom loving bitcoiners use tiktok?

should freedom loving bitcoiners use twitter?

if you answered no for the first question but yes to the second, why?


Who do you want to be propagandized by?

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Because they think Elon is their internet friend


At this point I'm not sure why bitcoiners use anything but nostr and stacker news


Strictly Nostr Ecosystem


Memes


twitter not only made my account ‘view-only’, they also want 11 Euro from me to reload any posts, twitter is finished. will go fully #nostr now.


two phones

one for sovereign stuff
one for normie stuff


The Bitcoin community is on Twitter… they shouldn’t be but they are. Otherwise it would be no for both.


Freedom-loving bitcoiners can use both TikTok and Twitter to spread their ideas and engage with a broader audience, as both platforms offer opportunities for communication and advocacy. 🧡
What you think?


People are lost and sick sir! Some of us find out way but a lot dont even have a idea that are possbilities! Tick Tock next block, the sound of inevitability!


Tik tok no uso, twitter si pero lo estoy dejando


I was on twitter and #nostr. I felt hypocrite about myself. Now I just use decentralized protocols, even if I have to spend time learning it.
Can’t give up my Freedom.


Why not ?
If you don’t use these tools to warn people about their danger they pose to freedom and free speech, how would you actually warn them en masse ?


cope


Meet people IRL. Get involved with your community. Create a reputation that is not bitcoin only but ensure that bitcoin is part of it. Be truthful. When people start looking, they will come to you. You won’t change peoples mind on Twitter and TikTok. They won’t let you. You’re noise there. Go shake peoples hand and look them in the eye.


Use it or be used by it.

I feel it’s a fair distinction as long as you can make peace with the data privacy trade offs.


Why not both?
How to meet people irl if you don’t have a common channel to coordinate?
If the goal is to meet nostr people irl, then no problem but you’ve already won.
If the goal is to bring people over here and have them abandon the panopticons, you need to first meet them where they’re at.


Both of them are shit, never a centralized data extraction social media platform again. Nostr/bitcoin way or no way


Thanks Odell, been a bitcoiner since 2015 and probably made 100 more ever since, never looked back again, leaned a lot from you these years. Bitcoiners are making history for humanity.


They're scared shitless... Elon won't even let me exit.pub, lol


Use of a system that relies on network effects strengthens that system, regardless of the intent of the user.


Why Nostr? The bitcoin community is on Twitter... Why Twitter? the bitcoin community is on Reddit... Why Reddit? The bitcoin community is on bitcointalk forums...


No to both. Broken centralized systems can't be fixed from within. Opting out is the only solution. They should all know better, unless they haven't heard of nostr:npub1s05p3ha7en49dv8429tkk07nnfa9pcwczkf5x5qrdraqshxdje9sq6eyhe


I got myself banned. I will be more on nostr now

#bringbacktheguillotines

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Freedom loving Bitcoiners should use everything they want. That's what freedom is about!


they do tho and it’s so quuute and hilarious


Fuck it all. Unless it is decentralised (with an s because I'm English) then it ain't wort a wank


We are not digital beings. The interface we use to access the digital realm do not connect us the way a handshake or eye contact does. Until we reach that technology point. We need to meet people where they are, but that means meeting people. Commenting in threads online is not meeting people. It’s throwing text at then without context or nuance and generally lack emotion without verbosity, which no one has time for online.


How did most people learn about Nostr? From Twitter.

I'm sure many people first heard about #Bitcoin on the major corporate social media platforms.

If there are no Bitcoin and Nostr evangalists on the big platforms to "meet them where they are" a major avenue to bring on new users has been cut off.

People don't go from zero to self sovereign Bitcoin and Nostr user without some intermediate steps.


I was specifically talking about means to coordinate, not means to engage.
I agree with all you said regarding the digital and physical realms.
However unless you spend your days preaching to every passerby (and the vast majority of them would think you are some kind of lunatic), it’s very effective to digitally handshake with strangers online, in order to arrange a physical meetup.
And you can always continue to do that offline, too, by going to general conferences/meetups…


No to both.


Twitter is a good news source for me. Tiktok is mental garbage is my experience


They are both tools. Shitty tools. If I dont use tools I may not accomplish my goals. However, these tools use you


The less judgement that happens in the world the better. I am a big fat NO on both questions but I do everything I can to restrain from judging others for anything they do. It's probably not their fault and if it is they are in their own state of jeopardy and we can only be an example to them of what is higher level consciousness. If they are not asking for advice, then they are not listening to any answers we have. When they ask, then they are listening.


Both of them hate you and everything you believe in. Why would you use a platform that hates you? I bailed on that dumb shit a long time ago, so I'm always confused that it's taking some exceedingly brilliant people so long to figure this out.


Freedom loving bitcoiners should post more on Tik Tok Twitter than they post on nostr to reduce the effects of preaching to the choir.

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If the objective is to provoke thought and curiosity about #bitcoin on any platform outside Nostr .. bloody well keep at it

happy dances inside a tiny echo chamber can quickly descend into another set of circle jerks


Any platform, that brings people together and connects people in enriching manner who wouldn't meet otherwise is supportable in my opinion, be it foreign, huge corporation, or open source.

The more tools and means for connection, the better.

Compared to many other platforms, tiktok may have interest to connect people about subjects that are suppressed by the media and of themes such as indigenous rights, or other such groups that face persecution.


I see your point. I unfortunately still use FB because all the small business owners around me use it to communicate. But that started because I attend the monthly meetups with them.


Nay, those who cherish liberty should avert their eyes from TikTok, for its practices raise concerns of privacy and possible suppression. Likewise, Twitter demands discernment, for Elon's hands weigh heavily upon the scale.


Social media has a tendency to suck time that would otherwise be more productive, so I try to strictly limit my engagement. To that end, I use FB for some occasional family stuff, and I check Nostr every few days. I quit my Twitter account a few weeks ago because Nostr satisfies my need to keep tabs on the Bitcoin and Nostr world. I have more than enough with email lists, podcasts, and news sites to keep up with everything else. I'm not missing Twitter at all, now.


Point being they are on a bunch of centralized platforms?


No, No.  #nostr only.


More a long the lines that the most popular place for public bitcoin discussions has changed over the years. In the order I noted above with Nostr being the new possible place.


should freedom loving bitcoiners use tiktok?

should freedom loving bitcoiners use twitter?

if you answered no for the first question but yes to the second, why?


should freedom loving bitcoiners use USD?
should freedom loving bitcoiners use Saudi oil or Russian gas?
should freedom loving bitcoiners use cocaine or research chemicals? that stuff will fry your brain like tiktok


NO x2


I think we all bitcoiners should become foss and decentralised maxxies. Some are quicker some are slower.