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Low Information Voter | 2 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +2 
 This is something that Alexandria will be able to answer itself one day with the right vector representation, but how did St. Thomas of Aquinas square that particular circle?
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Michael J | 2 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 A bit of searching brought this up; Article 5 is especially pertinent:

https://www.newadvent.org/summa/2094.htm

Thomas asserts God's absolute sovereignty over life and death, saying:

"All men alike, both guilty and innocent, die the death of nature: which death of nature is inflicted by the power of God on account of original sin, according to 1 Samuel 2:6: "The Lord killeth and maketh alive." Consequently, by the command of God, death can be inflicted on any man, guilty or innocent, without any injustice whatever."

All the objections and replies are worth a read, though.
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Michael J | 2 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 While searching I also read the suggestion that the commands we see to put all the Canaanites to the sword was a Hebrew idiomatic hyperbole; indeed we see examples of hyperbole throughout Scripture ("If your eye causes you to sin,..." etc.).

If this is the case, then, as you suggested earlier, perhaps we are not to take it absolutely literally, in which case the moral or spiritual meaning becomes primary in governing our understanding of such passages.
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m4dire0701 | 2 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 It's still hard to conceive a god who kill innocent children en masse. Where's justice in that? To make justice you need first that someone conscientiously commits a crime and the punishment must fit the crime. If your god can break this rule then he's committing a contradiction of the rules which himself created, if he's contradictory then he isn't a real god
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Michael J | 2 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 If you cook a meal, do you not have both the power and right to share it with whom you please, or to not share it at all?
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m4dire0701 | 2 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 That's exactly what I'm trying to point out: if the god of the Bible can change the notion of justice (opening exceptions from the natural law which himself supposedly created) whenever he wants then he cannot be a god, because one of the characteristics of the God is being perfect and immutable, if he can "change his mind" about what is justice then he's mutable and mutability is not perfect
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Michael J | 2 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Did you read the except from the Summa?  It addresses that very question.
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m4dire0701 | 2 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Another example how the Bible is contradictory:

"The Lord reigns forever; he has established his throne for judgment.
He rules the world in righteousness and judges the peoples with equity."
(Psalm 9:7-8)

If he "judges with equity" why did he command the killing of innocent children?