I used to think the seed oil guys were right, now I think they may have stumbled onto one of the most consequential movements of the 21st century. Right behind Bitcoin in terms of importance.


Fiat created the industrial complex Military, Ag, Pharm


Any recommended books or podcasts to learn? I know nothing about this topic


Elaborate


I was just listening to this https://www.youtube.com/live/UQtpLaDxRFE?si=pfabHvI7p3Vu2FBB


They say the way to a man’s heart is through his stomach. I wonder if a massive campaign to expose the atrocities of the fiat food industrial complex will be the catalyst that gets people looking down the same rabbit hole we Bitcoiners have stumbled into.


I think pro-beef is more important than anti-seed oil


I would check out Fiat Food by Matthew Lysiak.


Seed oils are a shitcoin and should be avoided at all costs. I stopped consuming that poison a couple of years ago and my health has improved greatly.


What if no one is right? What if our beliefs about what we consume is what decides how it works within us? What if, you think seed oils are bad, then they are bad. If you think the are fine they are fine. That's stupid right? No "scientific basis". How many of those have we flipped throigh, over the years. Just something to consider.


Pro-beef? Does that mean you are pro cows?


Yeah from my limited knowledge on this, seed oils are one of the biggest cancer causes, while sugar is one of the biggest causes for mental issues at an older age, such as dementia and alzheimer's.
Either way, I've been living as if these statements are true for about a year now  by avoiding both as much as possible and I gotta say, I feel pretty damn good compared to before.


I would emplore you not to test that theory with things like arsenic, ricin, and anthrax. No matter what you believe, those poisons will desolve your DNA and kill you. You might want to read some results surrounding certain oil types and mitochondrial function. It might things less ambiguous surrounding cellular effects.


💯
Broken money, broken food.
If you fix the money, the food will follow.


Yes lol


All about the incentives 🎯 seed oils help shelf life & mass production


If you cook your beef in seed oils, that would be some unholy combo though. It's important to be just as anti seed oil as pro beef 😋


:monkasweat:


If you can get people to notice how seed oil is in everything they eat and how hard it is to avoid it - and how expensive food is without it - it’s hard to ignore and a good gateway to bigger conversations about life, governance, money, incentives, media…


They go hand in hand. More beef = less seed oils


Fix the food, fix the world!


In my opinion they go hand in hand.  If you value longevity


I used to think the seed oil guys were right, now I think they may have stumbled onto one of the most consequential movements of the 21st century. Right behind Bitcoin in terms of importance.


RFK might fund that discovery


I went down the seed oil rabbit hole many years before the bitcoin rabbit hole. But it’s more profitable to do that in reverse. :/


Never again
Not one drop
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I luckily did it in reverse lol 😂

I’ve always had a thought that there’s an order of operations to a good life.

1. Wealth
2. Health
3. Happiness

1. Wealth first because you have to start compounding early.
2. Health second because when you’re young you can kind of get away with not prioritizing health for a time period.
3. Happiness last because it’s elusive and because it’s easier to achieve if you’ve already achieved the other two.

Not sure if I’m correct in thinking this way, but it’s been sort of a life philosophy for me.


I eat beef 2-3 times a day and some seed oils sneak in at restaurants etc. seems to be working pretty well!


Onward 🫡


Seed/vegatable oils were intended to be machinery lubricants. They ended up being ineffective so those companies decide to shove it down our throats instead.


Let's go 🚀


How do I get started with the seed oil rabbit hole? What is a good resource?


And population shrinkage


Blockstream


Great question.  This seed oil thing seems strange. I maybe can buy there's some marginal impact, but the way it is talked about implies there's some definite, measurable, material negative association. Otherwise, it's like chemtrails to me. Or another food/culture dogma, like Taleb talks about.


Something is making Americans fat as fuck.

 Basically the theory is that pufa’s (seed oils) are dirty food (industrial sludge, non ancestral) which turn into dirty fuel when utilized for fat burn in the body. This produces unpleasant and negative feelings in the body and emotionally when fat stores containing PUFA’s are tapped into causing people to become hangry (distinct from hungry) and seek food more often resulting in overeating. Personally I find it a more compelling theory than sugar bad, sedentary lifestyle etc…


read this if you haven't already

https://m.primal.net/KPCh.png


In Europe this doesn't seem to be as prominent. I guess the French and Italians kept us on the right track with Butter and Olive Oil. They are good for some things...


Since both you and nostr:nprofile1qqsw4v882mfjhq9u63j08kzyhqzqxqc8tgf740p4nxnk9jdv02u37ncpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9uju6mpd4czuumfw3jsz9nhwden5te0wfjkccte9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wsq3yamnwvaz7tmsw4e8qmr9wpskwtn9wvql3tqm agreed on this I guess I'll take it at face value. Thank you.

In more practical terms: olive oil, palm oil and rice bran oil are not seed oils (according to Wikipedia).

I need some oil for cooking so which one do I use?

Where do you stand on fluoride in water? Is it worth buying the filter?
The article on Wikipedia is locked for edits so there might be something in that rabbit hole as well:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation

(Btw it's overall good test - if the article is locked be suspicious)


I wouldn’t go underestimating laziness and overindulgence.


john- olive oil (EEVO) smoke point ax temperature is 350 to 410 Fahrenheit (approx 180 to 210 Celsius), so that should be plenty for basic cooking. (steaks are different obv)😄.


It’s not like we as a society suddenly got way more lazy and way more over indulgent. There’s clearly something wrong with the food supply.


I did it in this order as well Lyn, definitely a little bit jealous of the path not taken.

But endlessly grateful to be here with all of you now 🧡


I can’t disagree on the mass available food being garbage.. not convinced about the laziness though. Just my take. Been wrong way more than once. 🤙🏻


Have you read Fiat Food by Matthew Lysiak?


I might....


Then you don't eat them right? I wouldn't want to be eaten. If you do eat them, you must slaughter and butcher them too, right? Anything else would be obsurd.


What is arsenic, ricin, and anthrax? I have never come across those things in my desert wanderings.


Row, row, row, your boat...


For those who have already died many times, it's not such a big deal. 🤫


I’m confused, are you anti-division of labour???


thanks. I'll check it out.


No. I just feel that if we are going to eat an animal, the least we could do is to honor it. For me, I could never imagine slaughtering an animal. It's just not in me. So I shouldn't be eating them. 🤷♂


if you happen to understand spanish, this is a good resource: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyS2bGBer6Q


I'll send this to you too, if you happen to understand spanish this video is pretty good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyS2bGBer6Q


V arbitrary sounding to me 👀


For me, killing and eating animals is a big deal. Somewhere along the line it has been normalized. Doesn't feel right to me. Just one perspective. I'm a big softy.


Onward 🫡