Yeah I think you need to go into debt and make a mainstream product to get sales over clearweb sources. Obviously that’s a terrible idea, But paying for ads on Facebook is definitely loosing money trying to make money. It is not a big deal if you don’t have a successful bitcoin company, It’s more important that you actually make a profit. Sounds lame, But I made more in bitcoin by working a FIAT job and stacking than anyone giving me bitcoin or liking my products. The “community” seems more like a giant grift than a group of people who care. From a venture capital perspective, You need a product that outperforms bitcoin. Something that generates bitcoin and an income in bitcoin. The “community” doesn’t give a fuck, It is a hyper competitive version of the antiquated banking system. The reason they present their products is because they need customers and users or they fail. The largest bitcoin holders are not walking around looking for people to give bitcoin to.