Oddbean new post about login | logout unified balance where my money is saved on relays this is a "nostr balance" that will follow me around on any nostr app and I just zapped @NunyaBidness without having to connect nostr-wallet-connect it just works, no QR codes, no secrets, nothing... your nsec gives you access to your money https://m.primal.net/JIps.png
What kind of magic is this?!? Get out of here! 😉
Cashu?
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An idea who’s time has come
I feel like this is BIG nostr:nevent1qqs0y4h3y33tmwlzlasts36zas9m9s9mp4pv7wyd440h47wj5t70m3cpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7q3ql2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqxpqqqqqqz92p6n9
Whoa!
Pablo, are you going to drop how to do this? I'm, as usual, very interested in how this works and what it might take (pleb-wise) to get it to work. Also, did you just bitch-slap Ecash and LN at the same time?
where is it?🙄
This is the way. Probably the most important innovation, right now.
The Lighting addresses requirement for zaps could even be obsoleted: send a Cashu zap from your Cashu Nostr balance; npub comes online and signs an event adding that token to their own Nostr balance; done.
Pablo does it again. nostr:note17ft0zfrzhka79lmqhpr59mqtktqtkr2zeuugmt2l0tua9ghulhrs6k2cxz
Pablo, Do you have time this weekend to have a chat for the podcast? Or this coming week?
This coming week or maybe even this weekend I’ll have something for people to play with 👌🏻
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Money saved on relays?.
We need this everywhere!
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Is it secure?
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I know, right? It’s like a whole lotta stuff is now teetering on being irrelevant.
Now there’s a lot relying on individuals to properly secure their nsec… not only your nostr identity but some funds as well. Could you do this with ephemeral keys? Can you somehow combine with nsec bunker?
... and losing nsec gives access attacker access to your money which is quite possible considering the number of web apps used by nostr users
What if we assume that users will not persist a large number of tokens in relays? I think what we can expect is that users will redeem those tokens as soon as they start to feel like they have a large amount
Ecash users do not hold any bitcoin and mints custody bitcoin for them. These users cant even hold their ecash tokens and need relays for it, so they can do anything for convenience.
Yep. That’s why protecting your nsec is always Priority 1.
Security is not a priority for the users that rely on mints and relays for using their money and prefer convenience.
We are building incredible things on nostr, but also you can't reliably tag people, search, or find who to follow 😅 nostr:nevent1qqs0y4h3y33tmwlzlasts36zas9m9s9mp4pv7wyd440h47wj5t70m3cpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumt0wd68ytnsw43z7q3ql2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqxpqqqqqqz0kndmu
Pretty incredible. A unified balance that follows your npub, beats 8 lightning addresses on 4 apps any day of the week.
I’d previously wondered if something like this were possible, kick ass
In my harebrained idea I called them Zips. https://image.nostr.build/4478de9443bf273a2c4d234fc01183ebd5076655ca6d3528f8367be1609b54a5.jpg
Whut Whut? 👀
Do apps like Primal save my nsec key when I log in?
Your private key is used to sign everything you do with your public key
That was not my question. Does the app have access to my unencrypted private key.
Yes, and any other app could have access too once you've entered it on an internet-connected device. What makes this worse than username/password logins is your followers and stuff don't all automatically transfer if you need to change your key. People will really want this fixed more and more as time goes on.
How do you have so many good ideas?
It's a less secure version of ShockWallet's UX that uses Nostr to sync state and device tokens... and it doesn't use flakey ecash
Totally back-asswards way of doing this, if ECash mints want to copy ShockWallet and Lightning Pub do it correctly with remote signing and device tokens
@runbitcoin zapped ⚡️6,102 sats nostr:note17ft0zfrzhka79lmqhpr59mqtktqtkr2zeuugmt2l0tua9ghulhrs6k2cxz
I have no words. This is so awesome
Good zapping choice, @NunyaBidness needs to stop clubbing baby seals 🦭
