It's so fascinating how people cannot break the dissonance and understand this insanely simple observation alone disproves the claimed rate of curvature and therefore the claimed radius.

At no point is a large body of water ever curving. Its literally never been observed, no photos, no videos, just a fairy tale planted in our heads from a young age. We have thousands of long distance observations which anyone can repeat for themselves.

And the typical defensive mechanism I encounter is, "well then explain seasons, satellites, the stars, etc. what, you think everyone is in on some big lie?"

When you dive into the physics of it all it just keeps getting worse for heliocentrism. That's why it's so difficult to find a credentialed proponent to discuss this on a large platform. They will make videos or comments of their own mocking it, but they are terrified of a discussion.

It's a recurring theme in Scientism. Remember when Peter Hotez, the vaccine expert, wouldn't debate RFK on Rogan for $2.5 million crowd funded by people?

Notice how climate alarmists also won't debate. "The science is settled!!!"

All totally indefensible positions, and they know it too. But they want to keep their jobs and so they keep lying to people, and the rest simply don't know any better. We truly live in the dumbest times in history, and ironically the inversion is people think we are in our peak.