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 I don’t suppose @OpenSecret is offering refunds to anyone who bought a Mutiny+ subscription to use the fedimint feature that stopped working a within a few weeks, are they? 
 Probably not. Probably no refunds for the 3 times I paid 10k to open a channel that got forced close a couple days later. That app was doomed to fail from the start. 
 At the very least they ought to do that. 
 I get what they are doing is difficult, and we are early adopters in this and it’s part of the risk, but i was put off by their “just deal with it” attitudes. 
 you apparently haven't talked to nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qg3waehxw309ahx7um5wgh8w6twv5hsz8nhwden5te0dehhxarj94c82c3wwajkcmr0wfjx2u3wdejhgtcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcpr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmp0qyvhwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnndehhyapwwdhkx6tpdshsz8thwden5te0dehhxarj9ekh2arfdeuhwctvd3jhgtnrdakj7qgewaehxw309akxjemgw3hxjmn8wfjkccte9e3k7mf0qyv8wumn8ghj7cmjv4shgu3wdehhxarj9emkjmn99uqsuamnwvaz7tmwdaejumr0dshsqgzmuezx429rrsgm8dznh7x6ljdngmln9rgl5ydqlgp2rejxra4fkywfegex  before lol 
 Haha my only interaction with him was in short Nostr replies. And was basically, “yep, it is what it is.  enjoy the tool. Or don’t.” 
 he doesn't beat around the bush. but he's a good person.  
 I never want to judge too harshly on text interactions and I can usually give benefit of the doubt until I meet someone in person. It was just getting expensive for me to want to keep throwing money at for the, just suck it up attitude. 
 sure. that's understandable.  
 We've stopped accepting new Mutiny+ about 2 months ago. 
 Farewell, 16,000 sats. 
 Lol