The only one that should be embarrassed is you basing all of your information solely on podcast interviews.
I suggest you do better and do some actual research on utxos.org/uses since you clearly never even heard of the site while attempting to claim that CTV can cause miner centralization.
Matt didn't write CTV and is wrong.
Peter didn't write CTV and is wrong.
If you don't understand that out of band payments is not a bad thing because it's the same as an LN payment then you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Maybe you should read some foundation articles on my website bitcoindev.org.
The only one that is ignoring anything is you, best of luck on your "research" by doing nothing but listening to podcasts, the rest of us have work to do.