Governments, especially big govs. They will truly believe that stealing from you is the right thing to do because they have obligations to welfare expenditures (broadly defined). Their obligations are in the trillions - a couple hundred trillion in the US' case. Imagine your parents or grandparents no longer receive social security and medical benefits, which they paid for over decades, and now you have to support them. This is coming. There's no way out of it. But most people can't afford it. Governments will have a very simple choice : track down every bitcoiner and steal from them, even murder them ; or face tens of millions of people rioting. There's no choice.  

 Im more comfortable with the idea of government stealing than individuals like neighbors... I think you're right about the Social security benefits especially for EU countries. 

However if the economy really does boom, maybe we will all be rescued. I'm hopeful. 
  

 The government is much more dangerous than a neighbor, or even a seasoned criminal. They have no morals. They are just following orders. They won't feel any remorse when they kill us, and they won't even need to hide it. Criminals can be reasoned with, to some degree. Government is absolute, no reasoning. 

 I see your point. With the system of judges that we have, I would hope that they would respect body of law. I suppose a lot of charity might be in order in certain economic outcomes. 

 We should get started in doing real charity work right now. I have no idea where to start, but I know its not just sending money somewhere online.  

 This tftc video that I watched this morning about how wealthy families in England kept their land for a 1000 years talks about this idea of local charity (own your land and support help folks in your community ) versus sending money abroad somewhere and creating weird markets in other economies (Gates altruism style, mosquito nets in Africa that end up as fishing nets). 

I'm sorry, Gates, I have used windows many years so I thank him for that. 

 Me too, but Linux isn't too hard, so I don't think gratitude to Gates is merited. 

I used to watch tftc a lot, but not lately. Sounds like a good one. 

 gates ripped off qdos, ripped off windows, microsoft is like the amazon of software, they do everything, just non-shitty enough to ... as they elquently describe it "embrace, extend, extinguish"

i am not grateful to gates for making contracts with hardware manufacturers to ONLY write firmwares and drivers for windows... at all, in fact i think such a contract should be considered a conspiracy 

 wow, he's really one of those bad dudes that are so good at being bad, it's incredible. he's like Hillary Clinton level. 

at some point i'm just in admiration because I don't know how she's accomplished all the nefarious stuff that I think she has, but I'm sure she has done it.

on a regular week if I'm ambitious I'll put a paddleboard in the water. 

and then there are people that have gone and conquered the world, and still have time for flying to caribbean islands. 

 I do wonder if the "I lost the key in a boating accident, and a mermaid must be spending it" excuse is really going to work. 

 I doubt it. You can't prove a negative, and the cost of keeping you in a cage indefinitely is worth it if just a small fraction of people cave.