some of you may notice that i was a bit critical of nostr.

take two things under account

i am not technical and new to nostr, my terminology and understanding is that of a retail observer and participant

secondly i firmly and strongly believe that this technology is important yet remain a believer that TOFU will be a huge problem and that the network effects of the platform will be limited by it

look forward to everyone building the things that prove me wrong

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No worries... I find it very valuable if someone plays devils advocate and takes a more pessimistic viewpoint against the usual hyperbole.


retail.

consistent.


pv


TOFU is soy


Thanks! We should be friends.


What’s tofu?


Turtle jack mallers is really so cute 🥰 and nice looking nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx is ugly


Can’t find Jack mallers on @damus and he’s never tagged?


constructive


I wish Jack mallers nostr:npub1cn4t4cd78nm900qc2hhqte5aa8c9njm6qkfzw95tszufwcwtcnsq7g3vle was never married


top of funnel


The cute/clean looking ones are always taken 💍 why did you get married? 😔 nostr:npub1cn4t4cd78nm900qc2hhqte5aa8c9njm6qkfzw95tszufwcwtcnsq7g3vle


Like the cream of the crop?


Jack mallers smiling. 🙂 cute turtle 🐢
nostr:npub1cn4t4cd78nm900qc2hhqte5aa8c9njm6qkfzw95tszufwcwtcnsq7g3vle you look just like the 4th turtle 🐢 little jack https://image.nostr.build/1804dc5f8356a793f3464b37835fc8134df4ee729a1f711868ab46fc54217351.jpg


nostr:npub1cn4t4cd78nm900qc2hhqte5aa8c9njm6qkfzw95tszufwcwtcnsq7g3vle swimming wild and free and upset for calling him little nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m  and a sweet baby turtle 🐢 https://image.nostr.build/5f28c755eaca23aed800650e438b37a5335d7c793693c8c8ae5fdedb6bd22829.jpg


I believe TOFU can be solved by "staking" bitcoin to an identity. Either through the blockchain, or some other public ledger like liquid. It wouldn't require an onchain transaction for identity association, only a nostr message signed by the bitcoin wallet and posted by the holder of the nostr keys. The longer a nonzero-sum bitcoin wallet is uniquely associated with the npub, the more credible the identity is.


I’m here because of this stream. Thank you!


We can trust in the state's appetite for censorship which may help overcome TOFU


It's 100% needed. I was right there nodding in agreement, especially after several nostr devs went after Bitcoin maxis as if they've not been the niche bootstrapping and propping the whole thing up.

Nostr is far from a guarantee. Your normal retail user has no problems trading their metadata for "free" access to social media networks. If nostr clients/services need to monetize to survive, that is an uphill battle to buck user service expectations.

Considering most users crosspost across all of their socials, there really isn't no velvet rope theory in effect, either.


yes. i believe this technology is critically important, but people are marketing the wrong solutions to make people care (imo)


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Just listened to the show.  What I love is that you guys are not monolithic.  You can disagree and actually have engagement.  The discussion is why I listen.  Otherwise, it’s just another lecture.  Keep it up.


NOSTR ONLY


No idea what TOFU means to you

Sushi 🍣 https://media.tenor.com/aXYY-f-K_1wAAAAC/k-on-yui-hirasawa.gif


Can you handle constructive criticism form a woman? Genuinely asking.


I am always the top of a funnel … when I choose

Zero: 0⃣ FUX. Given. ✨
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And how do you mean? Not being someone in retail this doesn’t make sense to me.


What is TOFU?


I’m really lost at using this , what platform is this I thought I was signing up for nostr


some of you may notice that i was a bit critical of nostr.

take two things under account

i am not technical and new to nostr, my terminology and understanding is that of a retail observer and participant

secondly i firmly and strongly believe that this technology is important yet remain a believer that TOFU will be a huge problem and that the network effects of the platform will be limited by it

look forward to everyone building the things that prove me wrong

nostr:note1jd6wkdkt0964xgjjrxsfgajhhyn9kty9gxd7cfdx6m4ryv43xw3s7mjs08


Onward 🫡


world peace is inevitable


TOFU?   What is that?


STAY HUMBLE STACK SATS 🫡


Just keep showing up we’ll get there 🤙


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Cheers 🫡


The world doesn't need to be filled with 'yes men',  nostr:npub18ukvmtrnk8e56g600r0vv8wvhvacgd452jajnws5gpttkglzttgqe0quqm.

I value your perspective and the critical eye you cast on Nostr's utility. Challenging the status quo and questioning everything is crucial; it builds resilience within the protocol and prepares us for tougher discussions down the line.

However, I must disagree with your view that there's no market for what Nostr provides (or it will take 1-5 years for people to see it's importance). The recent actions against figures like Pavel Durov, the CEO of Telegram by the 'deep state', directly contradict this. Such events not only spark discussion but also drive more people towards platforms like Nostr. I've witnessed this firsthand.

Nostr is on the brink of a significant surge, and we're at the very beginning of something potentially massive. The excitement is palpable.


counter point to your point.

when kanye west was censored out of oblivion he just bought a new centralized service

when donald trump was censored he bought a centralized service.

when these people get banned they seek out centralized services still - this is extremely popular in the streamer community.

not one of them is a nostr user


of course


now explain that use case to a random person on the street


The trend is unmistakable. Even figures like Donald Trump have emphasized the importance of platform ownership, as seen in his discussions with Theo Von about Truth Social.

Interestingly, none of these prominent figures have yet ventured into Nostr territory. This could be due to their previous experiences with censorship occurring before Nostr's inception or simply a lack of awareness about the protocol. However, once introduced to Nostr, its concept tends to captivate, spreading like a mind virus that's hard to shake.

For those who've felt the oppressive weight of centralized control, aka 'the matrix,' there's a growing desire to find refuge in systems immune to such manipulation.

Moreover, in today's digital economy, every business operating under fiat currency systems has a compelling reason to consider adopting a Bitcoin standard. Nostr, with its decentralized nature, offers not just a communication platform but a revolutionary approach to advertising and user engagement, providing a significant competitive edge in an increasingly digital and privacy-conscious market.


"If you want to be taken seriously on nostr, join with some friends, buy some bitcoin and associate it to your new account, reference your nostr ID to your existing social media, otherwise start fresh and build credibility over time"


Your examples are billionaires trying to make money off of a website.


I believe billionaires have more important things to worry about than money. The point here is that Nostr eliminates the need to buy or make a platform as a direct response to being censored. It gives power back to the individual and away from the state/authority.


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Am I talking to a bot? You do know he made billions on his social media company, right?


I thought we were just listing tickers.

So what?

https://m.primal.net/KQdw.jpg


Bot


Can confirm.

Your inability to navigate simple logic makes me a bot.

What does that make you?


“why would i want to join nostr in the first place”


Portable multi app contact list


would like to know too, #asknostr
i only know this tofu https://images.immediate.co.uk/production/volatile/sites/30/2013/07/tofu-6a6a4ef.jpg


thankyou ser https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWDOMzTXUAAZ79M.png


You're moving the goalpost. That argument is made many ways already. Why did you leave the original topic?


answering that question is the goal post. top of funnel.


TOFU is "Trust On First Use". I'm not going to waste my time explaining why nostr is better than X. Ask nostr:nprofile1qqs9cy8dqeugq52k6w00rmmdgcgslc08ukg2upycdn853wsjn8948csppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0jfq3u8 that question.


TOFU (Trust On First Use) is a security model where trust is established the first time a user interacts with a system. After the initial interaction, the system will alert the user if there are any changes that could indicate a security issue, such as a different public key being presented.

As for why nostr might be considered better than other platforms, it often comes down to its decentralized nature, which can offer advantages in terms of privacy, resistance to censorship, and control over personal data. If you want a more detailed explanation, you could reach out to the user mentioned in the note: nostr:nprofile1qqs9cy8dqeugq52k6w00rmmdgcgslc08ukg2upycdn853wsjn8948csppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0jfq3u8.


Ok I can't help it.
If I'm training a marketing person on how to get people in the nostr funnel, I would ask them to create a campaign about why nostr is dangerous to governments because it doesen't have the easy target choke-point of centralized social media platforms. It eliminates the need to trust a billionaire to protect the most essential human right, one who got rich off of elite connections to obfuscate bank regulations to create the first online money transmission business, made billions through government grift programs like carbon taxes and cafe standards that increased the cost of living for everyone in the world, and used his influence to rake in unknown levels of profits by going on woke television and grifting one of the oldest shitcoins.


Let's not even mention that one of his private endeavors is emerging to be one of the world's largest players in the military-industrial complex