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 My lovely wife nostr:nprofile1qqsfg2spq35fak0xfwjn5lfumpn59h0ka4n8n3yux3d9fnlegyq9pxspr9mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuumwdae8gtnnda3kjctv9ucg730w has just had an abysmal experience with lightning and nostr. She had ln.tips set up a long time ago, which she was unable to access because when signing in to telegram she was prompted to use her number, which did not being her to her old account. Luckily I set up lndhub with nostr:nprofile1qqsrf5h4ya83jk8u6t9jgc76h6kalz3plp9vusjpm2ygqgalqhxgp9gpr3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt4w35ku7thv9kxcet59e3k7mgpzemhxue69uhkkmr0vd4k2mn8vyh8xmmrd9skcqguwaehxw309ahx7um5wghxy6t5vdhkjmn9wgh8xmmrd9skctylktc and was able to access her old ln.tips account. I told her to get primal on my way out the door to head back to work. Naturally she downloaded and made a new account on primal because she was unaware it was even a nostr client and thought it was just a wallet. Then she transferred her sats there. Although she had to leave around 500 sats behind in ln.tips because... Lightning architecture. Then texting back and forth I explained she should have used her existing key to sign into primal. So I said just send me your sats and sign it and you can sign in with your existing nsec. She did, but again had to leave 100 sats behind.... Except now, her email is associated with a primal wallet that's not her actual account. This whole experience involves several apps, friction, pain points, terrible UI/UX , lost time, lost sats. This shit has GOT to improve. Adoption is going nowhere until it does. Can someone help associate her current email with her actual nostr account? 
 ufff 
 the 420 ⚡  is for your wife once she has a real wallet and is using a real nostr client. 
 We can just share my actual lightning node for REAL storage of sats, but people should be able to get lightning tips without running a full node and reliabily use it. Lightning Architecture itself has limitations. We need more L2s. She uses #amethyst primarily. Primal was the easiest way to get her a lightning address. Perhaps I should have used npub.cash instead... 
 I hear you. I treat LN as a spending network so I use Alby and WoS and they work just fine for me and are easy to use. 
 I have my own lightning node but I also primarily use Alby. Unfortunately they're invite only so I just scrambled to find a solution. My wife is a smart cookie. If she has this much trouble, image the average "normie"... 
 About Alby invites. I mentioned it the other day to Alby since (imo) the wallet works best with zapstream. They replied and said something like "have you tried Alby 2.0 yet?" but didn't get a follow up answer when I asked them to tell me more. There might be a new version or something out there that doesn't require an invite? But I don't know. 
 Hey, sorry about that! Let's move to DMs so it doesn't get lost! 
 I already doouble checked the npub for anti scam 😉 
 geeze, don't go dark, no ending? 
 If you have your own node, use LNBITS, you can provide zap wallets for yourself and other users. Works great 
 Until it doesn't because lnbits kinda sucks... 😂 Partitioning my node scares me.  
 How does it suck? It just works 
 It does not just work. I get errors all the time.  
 Seems like a you problem lol 
 I don't think so... Anytime I've used lnbits plugins, they break anytime there's a state change to my node. Another plugin added, old ones break, new channels opened, plugins break, reboot node, plugins break, it's just wholly unreliable.  
 oh the plugins are shit yeah. Core wallet functionality works great  
 Npub.cash, Minibits, or Coinos will get it done. 
 I had a similar experience with @OpenSecret where even though I wanted out I had to leave sats for the "network fees". lol 
 @miljan Help with re-associating an email with a pre existing nostr account 
 Yes, we can help. Check your DMs.  
 It’s another good reminder that we’re all beta testers and we need to keep that in mind when inviting others. 

I suspect that, long term, most users will gravitate to custodial solutions because there will be folks like Milan who can assist. Sovereign lightning is frustrating but it still exists in consumer apps because we want to believe it’s for everyone.

Just like how we no longer use the L1 chain for everyday payments, I suspect that over time we’ll no longer use self-sovereign lightning and instead use custodial lightning and federated ecash. Probably only exchanges and federations will use sovereign lightning. 

It feels a bit like we’re in this in-between place because federated ecash isn’t yet a viable mainstream service. 
 Thank you to my husband @OceanSlim & @miljan
for rectifying the situation. I love how this community is so willing to help. 

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