I found this conversation really interesting. It is very refreshing to hear two people disagree gracefully with each other. 

It made me ponder upon 2 things
1. Saylor is positioning himself to be a sound money banker. That is what his long play is. "What is wrong with a loan?"
2. Ammous seems to trigger Saylor in a way I haven't seen before

It's a great watch. 

btw I respect both of these gentlemen greatly 

https://youtu.be/k7XhzXMSAPo?si=0SqW38cY-CyeaRFH