oof. A decline in active pubkeys per day of 20% over the past 2 months.

 https://i.nostr.build/lLPwP.png


any idea why


When did the #zapathon end? Maybe related?


That's a shame, the range of apps is starting to flesh out nicely and there's less and less reason to go back to the old www - hopefully they'll come back, in their own time


Interesting, I seem to be using it much more because the content is much better lately in my opinion.


Bummer, I've noticed a lot that I follow havent posted in a while. Guess people don't like freedom 🤷🏼♂ I'm on every day.


I’m only on Nostr, that’s probably why 😂


To this who left I say:

https://media.tenor.com/eyotjD6tKIYAAAAC/man-of-steel-general-zod.gif


there are substantial declines in zaps around the times of zap woes related to damus, wos, alby, etc


We are still early


With each restriction on some other social network they come to see what’s around here, a few stay most leave because they consume other more playful content.


we're past the end of the year rush from people showing family and friends at holiday social functions. and in the phase of hectic season (taxes, crunch quarter/semester for school). combine that with things like meta dragging attention to their fediverse stuff.

but beyond externalities, internally nostr still suffers from an echo chamber effect and an increase in relative toxicity as compared to twitter. A good number of those active pubkeys are likely also bots. real regular userbase is probably just a few thousand


They all rush over to X, when Bitcoin scene goes nuts.


Checks out. Ecosystem is losing momentum.

I think the underlying Nostr protocol has merit. But client devs are out to lunch. Some need to be purged for sensible development and network effect to occur.


what happened?


Having bots that meet new users with a bunch of racist shit probably has nothing to do with it…


No algorithms that hook you


What a shame. A month ago, I didn't know what NOSTR was. I subscribed to the orange pill app which I heard about in a youtube video on Bitcoin. They actually have a NOSTR group in the app so i asked ... What is NOSTR? And about a month ago, I had to have someone (thank you "The: Daniel) walk me through setting up NOSTR, and even GetAlby all in one night.  I really enjoy Primal and working on organically growing a good group of people on here. I barely go to FB or TW ever now and LOVE it! I will try my best to help folks understand and get onboard NOSTR. I have a lot of learning myself yet LOL. Take care all !!!


What defines an active pubkey?
Posting? Reacting? Following? Request stuff from a relay?
Coming from traditional social platforms where the participation is heavily induced with unfair psychological practices, I don't think it's necessarily bad if users gradually decrease a little the weekly activity.
Of course I would like to see new users join and stay, with a moderate attitude.


bitcoin goes down some 70% every cycle after an ATH

going to zero depends on flawed motivations for use of the network

nostr doesn't tell you how to use it, nostr doesn't have a VC board or investors, nostr is driven by developers and these hangers on are not substantial in the real use of the network, some of us hardly even stop using it for 10 minutes


Yeah, and this is daily, not even weekly. I think that's just healthy. I don't do social media daily, and when I do, it's nostr or video platforms. In my case, it's just healthy, to not feel the need to check all the time because you've got other important, enriching stuff that sometimes takes precedence.


The weekly trend reflects a 15% drop over the same period.

The data comes from nostr.band and active pubkeys are those considered to have a non-zero trust rank which is influenced by nip05 settings from select providers and weights based on those pubkeys events and being mentioned in events.


oof. A decline in active pubkeys per day of 20% over the past 2 months.

 https://i.nostr.build/lLPwP.png


I ran into this https://m.primal.net/IByo.png


Zoom out.


And?


That's gonna be a mix of people not preferring the platform over alternatives and people preferring to not do any social media for a while. I think those who give up on nostr are simply sorting themselves out. It's a free market for social media. Let them come to us when they are ready. Perhaps onboarding and key management can be made easier in the meantime. I understand Primal is pretty easy.


it’s joever


It's also nice weather season in a lot of places. 6 month looks less bleak. But there's been a lot of drama, hype, and monotopic recently.  That has its effects. Lots "on break" and quite a few die hards quitting. I can't imagine how distasteful it must be as a newbie to come across any of the bigger conversations recently. 😅 I think anything that onboards with a default follow list should diversify that more... but I'm not sure how when content lacks much diversity. More focus on Communities could help people find their people & give an escape from the broad, heavy topics. But these are just observations. I'm just a hopeful user. 😊


the big social media platforms wreck your life with their clickbait and highly addictive algorithms.

nostr as social media is like methadone. it gives you the same high when you find someone new to follow or have a cool connection with a peer but without the addictive trappings.

eventually, you realize that maybe you don't need to socialize online. maybe you can be more present IRL and being on nostr is the first step in taking your life back.

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:turtlehappy:


shut it down ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Is it on?


Time to pack it in boys, it was a nice run


Pack it up boys and bots ... 🤷🏻♂🤖


where's the CEO, i need to discuss the protocol KPI's with them ASAP


The CEO nostr:npub18ams6ewn5aj2n3wt2qawzglx9mr4nzksxhvrdc4gzrecw7n5tvjqctp424 😅


It's literally the only place to make money shitposting tho


It's probably my fault. I've been reporting all of the bots I see 🤪


I am a newby and I have no intentions to leave. But that's me. I read some conversations, some situationships but that's part of "human" behaviour, as I come to understand trough life. I can choose to give my 5cents or keep quiet, but never make it an issue of mine that will make me leave....Nostr is not everyone's cup of tea, people who like easier, algorithms and shit, will probably not stay long. I like to search and find my own stuff. I am highly curious, search and find keeps me interest


As I understand, centralized social media platforms use censorship algorithms to keep people constantly active. Since Nostr uses no such algorithm, perhaps it is beginning to have a somewhat adverse effect on some users, making them realize that social media use is, in no way, essential to there overall happiness. Or they may be just flocking back in droves to centralized platforms. 🤷♂ Idk. I'm new to social media in general. But I have observed much paranoia in my small feed alone. I can only suspect that many were heavy social media users before Nostr had arrived. 🤔


I've been following the Ditto project, I'm hoping that brings some traction if/when it launches. When you have a seamless way to run both the Fediverse and Nostr at the same time, I wonder if it will cut down on that echo-chamber effect.


It’s over, pack it up boys, it’s been fun🙏


:kirby:


I choose no🤷🏽♂


Lol I'll keep my relay going for the stubborn folk like you


So long and thanks for all the fish


We, the simple plebs, preciate ur fine attitude and go get’m spirit😂👊🏼🌅


Good line. You should join us on Tuesdays as we're reading the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy books


BUY THE DIP!!
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La configuration des portefeuilles n'est pas très aisée je suis sur nostr depuis bien avant nostrica c'était très compliqué d'une part la création de profil ..puis une fois créé, il fallait rajouter cette notion de portefeuille qui n'était pas trop aisée pour les utilisateurs non bitcoiners de plus rien n'indiquait sur quel support web ou mobile ..rajouter à cela la nécessité de valider le profil en NP05...Toutes ces étapes en plus des outils construits au fur à mesure en plus des nids etc rajouter au fait de nos divers créneaux horaires je vous avoue il faut une énorme disponibilité et organisation du temps pour être participatif sur le réseau..En termes de diversité de contenus thématiques ded interactions ou sujets d'actualités sociales économiques, employabilité nous pourrions peut-être sortir de notre en soi afin d'alimenter la plateforme ....aborder certains maux ou difficultés personnelles sur des espaces confidentiels par exemple c'est aidant pour ceux qui en ont besoin ...
J'ai pu remarquer des occurrences personnelles qui méritent un espace où elles peuvent être abordées, je ressens une certaine solitude chez certains les mots ont un sens..
L'espace est sympa, la dimension humaine l'est encore plus ..le partage de musique de mets, de pieds, de régime etc..est superbe sur un temps dans une sphère où nous n'avons pas les mêmes statuts sociaux, ni priorités avec en plus des constructeurs qui se démènent pour développer des outils pour cette plateforme de jour en jour, nous utilisateurs nous pourrions sortir de notre zone de confort pour rechercher dans nos expériences socioprofessionnelles de quoi alimenter la plateforme puis s'entreaider pour ceux qui sont en souffrance et l'exprime en ligne via des notes ....j'ai des idées dans cette thématique..il y a quekques catégories de nostriches qui pourraient se regrouper pour apporter un certain regard de quoi aussi alimenter la plateforme autrement de manière constructive sur tous les plans ..


We need more people from not-bitcointwitter lol


I am very active but my pubkey won't count as 'trusted' because I don't have an NIP 05 handle. I will not be getting one for the foreseeable future.
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Not my case. Is there a chart showing correlation with Bitcoin price movements?


i just got here and it’s already all over?


normal.
Fediverse has grown in waves for the last decade.


Agree, still better discoverability would be nice, which in turn will be easier when more people with different interests create content on on and for the protocol. Lack in discoverability = lack of incentives for interesting content creators. It takes a lot of effort to create a network effect.


Wow .. 10k users daily ..  may be bunch of them are test pubs but still its an impressive cohort for such a short span of #nostr .. isn't it ?

I still feel though the real use case is not social .. thats a beten path ..


oof. A decline in active pubkeys per day of 20% over the past 2 months.

 https://i.nostr.build/lLPwP.png


I have 4 pub keys and the only one that works is the one that alby runs for me bc Im disorganized pleb
so yeah 3 of my keys are pretty dormant until I can figure out how to access them


If you can remember back in Aug - Sept at $25ks how it felt like it couldn’t go up but down only right? Until it got to 75k and then now 57k and a lot have started to panic.

Now it also feels like #Bitcoin  can’t go up or it taking too long right? Yes, The market is simply following it’s usual pattern

If you haven’t join (RCL) vip group yet you’re missing out. they are doing a great job in demystifying biases in #Bitcoin  and bringing clarity to controversies, you can easily 174x your portfolio with the arbitrage algorithm integration in longterm interval.

vip group: https://t.me/rebelcapitalistshow

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX7inr8yy1s


That graph is sick as hell. Where'd you get it?
That said; it's impossible to tell how many npubs are bots or real - so, always see those numbers as "biased". Too many factors are in this to tell for sure just how many there really are, except by calculating how many possible pubkeys can exist - and that is only a mere pointer still o.o


Bonjour Vic désolée j'ai dû répondre à chaud sur votre note tout en rencontrant un bug récurrent et embêtant de nostr il arrive souvent qu'en faisant une note tout saute et on se trouve à la recherchant en vain ou recommencer..par ailleurs je pourrais éventuellement vous faire un retour objectif suite à mes diverses observations...qui pourrait nous tous nous être utile si voulu..autre remarque acceptons l'autocritique un point très important pour faire évoluer cette plateforme..Rien n'est personnel pensons professionnel pour *grandir voire faire évoluer cette plateforme qui pourrait être d'enfer car la vision  collaboratrice  des techniciens est exemplaire ment dans une démarche qualitative  continue .
Je vous ferai si voulu un retour d'observation ..
Bien à vous et merci


that must be wrong I'm getting more active


depends on the client tbh


We need more models


It's over It was fun while it lasted bois, noshole was the last straw 😭


What if there’s only us?


Meh, still good


The sun is shining, the weather is gooooood ☀


Oh no! The TikTok girls left 😜


The wheat always separates from the chaff.


Following Bitcoin price


:POLICE:


Let's find a way to keep them here! To do this, nostr must have content creators to keep users engagement


Request deletion


Just ... nice people. :)


Everyone finds what they are looking for