Who wants to make some bots? nostr:note1ysm3muczwsa0l82w8efxev6ldum3pk9vd74y8msqs0qw4dkctmwsxj98ln


https://app.getnotus.io/leaderboards/category/overall if y’all want data


Mirroring....? Blah.


Is that really a good solution? It’s just copying content you don’t own. Probably better to secure the system and add desirable features.


You still awake?!


i’m stubborn as hell and still banging my head against the wall as i’m using figma ☺

i’ll figure it out 😊


I don’t need it but others may. I picked a lost of rss feeds I wanted to follow and that’s nice to have.


Let me know where you get stuck maybe I can help you


sent dm 😊


Hmm I'm not convinced bots are the solution to anything lol but at least it's addressing the correct question imo.

How about a bot that lets you make a bot of   an account you want to see the content of? (Does / did anyone here even follow the top followed twitter accounts anyway? I doubt that it.)


:Cacodemon:


Breaking news: as proven countless times, content on a "platform" doesn't belong to you.


This is for newbies, normies and people who just want to see what Bad Bunny ate for brunch in his Bahamas villa last Sunday mate.


The normie is a mythological creature.

And/or even if they did exist, my guess is that they would probably never be here, even if you made Westworld theme park of twitter mirror bots to follow.

Still think letting users here make bots of actual interesting people could work. It may be an injection of different topics / discussion starters. Although it might just end up a clone of b!tcoin twitter lolol. Oh dear we have 50000 Michael saylor bots.
🤔

I don't know, just my thoughts, it's worth doing as a project anyway.


There was/is quite many of those done via the RSS-bridges already but I never found them to work consistently.

Either it was the nostr client changing the relay settings (removing the bridge relay) or something else happened (the bridge stopped updating).

I collected some 50-100 on my following list in the spring but don’t have them anymore.

A micro-bot / service where you could look for your favourite user with their handle (twitter/mastodon/bsky), website address or RSS-feed address might help in discovery and feed population, and add them if they don’t have a feed yet.

This is the other way to do it on the client side:

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Most big accounts will already have a bot on fedi that you can follow and it's best not to reinvent the wheel because nitter is very limited now.  Did you have anyone in particular in mind?


:thinking face:


Not to sound like a hipster lol, but I doubt they would be cloned, just going by your 'most big accounts' description. Erik Davis, Nick Land (lol), Nina Power ... Just a top 3 off the top of my head. Maybe they have been cloned ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


I like that idea more. Although, I see that it parallels the mass import strat


Since you'll get more exposure:

My complete onboarding solution pack would be:

1. Upon account creation, automatically follow 1500 random accounts. You can have a button in the client that says "Follow 1500 random people". Then, start curating your feed if you don't like what you got.

2. The most useful feature I found when I first got on: "FOLLOW ALL" button when checking Jack's follow account, and subsequent few accounts. In ten minutes I was following over 1700 people and had a populated, lively feed.

3. The aforementioned mirrors/bots

4. Automatic relay management, configurable later on as the user gets more knowledgeable.

Stuff like asking people to pick tags when they create the account and whatnot, is not useful *yet* because the content simply does not exist. What's the point of me picking a bunch of tags that deeply interest me like "linguistics", "Catalonia", "seafood", "knives"... if there's nothing or nearly nothing about any of them -- yet? In the future, yes. But right now it's not worth wasting time on this.

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Even with all the above, we all know that the UX is, at best, wonky. In my opinion, it's just not normie-ready yet, and expecting to have "normal" UX retention rates is delusional. A shortlist, and I'm only talking about "social" clients:

Devs haven't even sorted out a single common way to
quote events. Some use "@", some "nostr:", some nothing... It's a
shitshow, for being a "protocol".

Embedded content display is not smooth and varies greatly between clients, especially video. The system to embed content is not coherent among clients.

Clients not only don't talk to each other - they nuke each other. The fact that we advertise "one single account" for all apps. Yet, the simple act of logging on through another client may cause you to lose: 1. your follows list, 2. your relays, 3. your own fucking notes. Kind of bums people out...

Right now I have to switch between Damus and Coracle to write this because the some notifications and notes are missing from each other.

Search is terrible, when it even exists. Clients like Damus don't even try.

The list of UX-related stuff is really very long, and I'm not one of those who bitch about silly shit like "oh, it doesn't scroll up and down smoothly". But in any case, as I said before, the main and most pressing problem is simply populating one's feed.


OK Outsideness apparently has 1 follower on fedi LOL nostr:npub1lmatu6j7xvwds5tuu6mentrj4xqu0sm3xy6vw9gkus2prc2yu8asjdzh3j.  The other two I could force by following from a masto instance but yeah this is going to be a little impractical if the accounts you're thinking of aren't normie type accounts like Elon Musk LOL.


We went from escape Twitter to lets post them here with bots???


The feed for outsideness seems empty to me. Also I suppose a lot of the fun of that account is also the amusing reply guys.

You realistically need a genuine ecosystem ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


tbh, I’d love to read football news RSS feeds on Nostr


You would need to follow the account for posts to start coming down the bridge.  Mostr doesn't deliver posts until someone does.


Ah I see🫡


Shame it doesn't say who made the mirror, probably worth following more lol


Because the top Nostr people seem to be extremely preoccupied that we are not onboarding Twitter users. I'm fine without. Just giving them an answer to their question.


Mostr doesn’t deliver the post until someone does what exactly?

Oh is this one of those things that has Ethan Hunt going since impossible expectation like disclosing the speaker because Egyptian, vodka and whispers are free speeches?

Oh is this a random question?

So exactly what is the expectation for the post to be delivered?

Asking for an amigo


Maybe the issue is there are "top Nostr people". 🤣🤙


Not delivering the post which is a federal service where disruption is treason by definition is questionable conduct to squeeze by.

If argument?


I don't know this sounds like it would make the problem worse to me tbh lol;)

Oh wow I've followed 1500 people who all have b!tcoin tourettes. Will I start unfollowing 1400 people ofr will I just delete the app? 🤔


Yes, I thought about it, but you're going to put up with Bitcoin right now. There's no way around it unless we somehow bring the content in automatically, e.g., the aforementioned bots/mirrors.


So much to read …


What if existing users had a section where they could list (or pick off a list) certain interests.  People could scroll through that list to find people who like spelunking for example and get a list of spelunking enthusiasts that they could follow.


:thinking face:


I think clients like satellite .earth and Nostrudel etc, could be working within the realms of this problem.

The reddit-style / topic focus rather than twitter-feed following account focus also potentially works. Following topics rather than people. No big names needed. Obviously you still need to attract people to talk about topics, but seems more plausible(?)


At least we can say it's Proof of Work. They lead by putting in the hours to make the Nostr happen. So I'm fine with that. And also, because I have no obligation whatsoever to conforming to their ideas or opinions.

I have said this many times here: anything "social media" is not a need. I can do without and simply turn it off if/when I stop liking it or I come to disagree with what's happening, like I did many (in internet terms) years ago now with FB, then with Twitter, long before the Nostr even existed. Both of which I was among the earliest adopters and a heavy user for years.

When I start to see relay-level censhorship and "content moderation", or hardcoded into the clients, I will simply stop using it because those are absolute dealbreakers for me. Nothing dramatic, though.


Do you still post on the fedi side?  If so you would need to follow yourself to ensure those Notes or Other Stuff would be Transmitted over the Relay known as mostr.pub.


‘nother thing that friends have done. federated feeds were gabs best feature before selling out, however, difficult to find a justified squeeze connection here with federal postal services mail delivery.

Care to explain?


Don’t forget to wash those hands with soap though when dirty.

Gagged as well that did.
Or what say you, @alexgleason?


From my parent note:

Stuff like asking people to pick tags when they create the account and
whatnot, is not useful *yet* because the content simply does not exist.
What's the point of me picking a bunch of tags that deeply interest me
like "linguistics", "Catalonia", "seafood", "knives"... if there's
nothing or nearly nothing about any of them -- yet? In the future, yes.
But right now it's not worth wasting time on this.


No need, just repost :*


I've built some bots, and people hate them.


Where?


you had me at Westworld theme park 😎


:Cry:


I dislike the idea of flooding nostr with mirrored  content from X or other sites. If someone feels they need that content they can view it on the respective sites or try and purple pill that person so they share their content here.


I agree, I also think mirrored content is not useless because the discussion stays on the original platform. Or at least discussion with the OP does


That meant to say “is useless”


Let's make them better? I would contribute.


Hmmm, how about the following take.

We create alt accounts of popular accounts. We can see their content without opening any other platform.

This could give already a user base to these accounts on nostr, making the switch easier.

Usually the problem is social graph. If we rebuild without them, the switch will be easier.

It is not this easy. But I just wanted to share a different purpose for mirroring content.

Maybe bad idea.