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 0xchat looks really cool. It has a nostr feet with lots of cool feature like seeing posts filtered by likes. Is this a client that should be used with the main npub? Would it cause a problem if I’m using the same npub in Damus and 0xchat or better to use a new npub for this? 
 #asknostr 
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 I set mine up with a separate key pair because I didn’t want to risk my main key, and also because I don’t want just anyone being able to start a chat 😂 
 You can log in witb Amber. Perfectly secure. 
 iOS doesn’t have Amber 
 Another reason to use Android. Amber makes an nsec a superpower! 
 Fuck off. 
 🤣 Don't tell corn about android features! 
 It’s not that. I have Android and use it, but not as my main device. 1.5 billion people use iOS and your solution to how to login to 0xchat to any of them them is to switch to Android? This is such an old and pointless tech argument. 
 I choose nostr as my leading tech not the OS/hardware. If OS restricts my ability to use the best nostr features then I ditch it. 

I am offering a solution to the "don't use your main npub in this awseome nostr client because apple" 
 What part of “fuck off” didn’t you understand? I’m not having an iPhone vs Android argument you moron. 
 rejection is just a challenge     gfy 
 I forget to mention I’m on iOS 
 This is interesting. I didn’t know anyone could start a chat with you. Do you see the chats created in 0xchat in your other clients? 
 Anyone can dm you right now. Ox just presents your dms and groups in a unique way. I use Amethyst, so dms always pop up in feed and so do group chat messages. 
 Interesting. Seems like a powerful client 
 If you haven't spent time on an Android device running Amethyst with Citrine and Amber you are missing out on the full nostr experience. 
 Not sure that’s totally true 
 It would be interesting to try though 
 There isn't anything like Amethyst, running a private relay on your phone with your keys secured on the device not in any other client with total signing control. It is so feature rich. 
 Have you tried Nostur? It literally has all the features. And will is working on a relay inside Damus, nostrdb 
 Yes nostur is great but it is like the little step brother of Amethyst. These tools exist in a robust form. I don't understand the hesitancy to use the better tools.  
 I’m curious, why is it the little step brother? 
 It is good, it is what I would use on ios, but it still restricts my freedom to use all the tools. I mean you have to do all kinds of silliness just to zap on ios.  
 Nostur has the zap option directly in the settings…Are you referring to the zap script on Damus. Two different things
So the only thing you don’t like is the lack of amber? That’s the “restricts my freedom” part? I’m trying to understand your point 
 I know they are two separate ways because thay are different clients. Ios requires users to go thru friction to use features that are so smooth with Android. Nostur requires users to go and select a specific reaction emoji that is a hidden feature, damus is a script, primal is kyc. 

Amber is a unique app that works with any nip46 compatible nostr client. It is separate but interop. It is the answer to your very first question as to how to use other clients in a safe way. 

if you don't want to use it and don't want to have a better nostr experience where you are limited by apple then so be it. 
 Again no one said “dont want to use it”. That’s just you saying this. Thanks for explaining your point. It was hard to get it out tbh 
 My point had been the same all along. There is an easy to use solution to your concern about using your nsec in other clients. That was met with some kind of wierd pile on over not using android and that unless apple has the same solution I am some kind of idiot. 

I am pretty sure this is the equivalent of "i don't want to use it." 

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 You need to get off it dude. 

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 I thought I was muted lmfao 
 You are.  
 I never called you and idiot and I said a few times already that I want to try this 🤷🏾‍♂️ 
 Stop being so nice. Guy is obviously an idiot. His own words. 
 Comedic gold 😂😂🤌🏾

How are you Sats? 
 Doing well. Just enjoying the show & cutting way back on social shit. It gets tiring. 
 Don’t burn yourself out. You’re staying on nostr this time. Right? 
 I am. 
I gots more to say.  And scams to watch. Love the scams this cycle. Love them.  Epic. 
 You may have not directly called me an idiot but here, you think it is comedic gold when someone else piles on saying I am one. 

It is comedic gold to see these users unable to simply hear there is a tool that solves the concern they raised. 
 I say it’s comedic gold because Sats and Corn say hilarious things about the situation. I’ve known them for a while and I understand their sense of humour.  

I think you’re taking this situation way too seriously. If I ask a question about an iOS app, “get another phone” shouldn’t be the only valid answer. 🤷🏾‍♂️ 
 what is citrine? 
 Private relay on your phone on android 
 personal relay running on the phone to store all your notes locally

and expose with orbot for a outbox relay over tor on the phone

or use as a p2p nostr dm relay on the phone over tor when added to private dm inbox

https://github.com/greenart7c3/Citrine 
 oh wow that's pretty cool 
 Very powerful. Basically means that as long ad I have my phone and wifi I can't be censored. Your client would be pulling from or posting directly with my phone. 
 I don’t know lol I’m not logged into any other client with that nsec. But yea if they have your npub they can send you a message. I guess you can block them, so it’s a little like Telegram that way. Idk, I just wanted separate npubs for this. 
 So far I only trust Damus, Nostur and Freerse with my nsec.  I’ll use it with a new npub for now 
 But bro it’s simple bro, just switch to Android bro! 
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 I woke up feeling peaceful and then some Android fanboi starts in with that shit. Dammit just let me eat my breakfast in peace!!! 😂 
 The whole “you haven’t fully experienced nostr if you’re not on this client” argument doesn’t make sense to me. If the super feature of nostr is the portability of your keys, then there shouldn’t be a “special” nostr client. The special client is whichever the user decides to use 
 💯 
 Cope 
 I don’t understand why you’re making this into an us vs them scenario 
 I didn't, y'all did lol

You were like here are my concerns
I was like here are the solutions

Y'all like noooo, i don't want to hear it.. 
 I literally told you I was curious to try what android had to offer and corn said he also had an android phone 
 I just disagree with the fact that if I’m not using your setup right now than I’m missing out. No one stole my nsec. Nothing was rugged. 

I am curious to try android in the future. Might get a used android to install calyxos in the future. 

No need for the us vs them in my opinion 
 To which he tells me to fuck off, tries to ridicule me with a meme that you zap all because the solution is to use another OS... 
 Trying another os is totally fine 
 Mute. 
 Obviously each client has different features 🤣 If al the clients were exactly the same then we would only need one client and we would be right back to where we started. If you never try them how would you know? 
 So you’ve tried the clients I told you about? 
 You don't have to trust putting your nsec in  client if you use better tools. 
 I literally saw a post of Will yesterday saying the safest way to store your keys on iOS is inside the app. They stay on your phone. I can’t find it right now but I don’t see why he would be lying🤷🏾‍♂️ 
 0xchat looks really cool. It has a nostr feet with lots of cool feature like seeing posts filtered by likes. Is this a client that should be used with the main npub? Would it cause a problem if I’m using the same npub in Damus and 0xchat or better to use a new npub for this? relay.wellorder.net 
 0xchat looks really cool. It has a nostr feet with lots of cool feature like seeing posts filtered by likes. Is this a client that should be used with the main npub? Would it cause a problem if I’m using the same npub in Damus and 0xchat or better to use a new npub for this? nostr-pub.wellorder.net 
 It is nostr interop. I notice it will rec config your relays, so make them the same across the clients you use. You could have multiple npubs for different reasons but non outright need to isolate just to use it.  
 Yes definitely. All the clients I use with my npub have the same relay set. Easier to keep track of 
 Or worse, try to voice call or video call randomly 😭😭😭 
 🤣🤣🤣 video call is the worst! 
But you can manage that. 😅 
 Right! Maybe I haven’t used it enough to understand how to control all that, but all the more reason to use it for now with a separate npub. Can always login later with my main key 🤣🤣 
 It’s really good. I use an alt there. 😁 
 And is there a desktop / web client please? 
 Desktop, Android app, iOS app. Yes 
 It’s heavily ecash based so I decided to use it with @bullishNuts 😎 
 Do you use your main nsec or another one just for that use case? 
 I created that account exclusively for 0xChat and to experiment with Cashu stuff. 🥜 
 That makes sense. Spun up a new npub for 0xchat as well 
 LFG feel free to DM that account if you wanna test anything. I use it pretty often. 
 Thanks! I’ll add you 🐸 
 Did you change the initial relay set to match the ones you have here or it doesnt matter since its a different npub? 
 0xchat looks really cool. It has a nostr feet with lots of cool feature like seeing posts filtered by likes. Is this a client that should be used with the main npub? Would it cause a problem if I’m using the same npub in Damus and 0xchat or better to use a new npub for this? nostrue.com