“I am in favor of paying taxes, what I don't agree with is the way they are used.”

Typical NPC phrase.

Paying taxes is stealing from you.

Translated:
“I'm in favor of being robbed, what I don't agree with is the way my stolen money is used.”

Another very good phrase:

“I'm in favor of taxes, but I think we pay too much, they should lower them.”

Translated:
“I am in favor of being robbed, but I think we should be robbed less”.

Hey if you want to be robbed fine, that's your problem, but the real problem is that in this shitty system called democracy, you decide for me.

#Bitcoin


What's even worse are Christians that should follow the ten commandments, including: thou shalt not steal, defending steal through taxes.
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Everyone knows that taxes are just Govt. theft. The proof of this is that  no one ever “donates” money to the Govt., like they do to charities. (not that charities are not suspect as well ) 🤡


I agree with "I'm in favor of taxes, but I think we pay too much, they should lower them."

I would prefer 0 🤭


:anyablush:


I would be willing to voluntarily participate if the funds would be spent effectively and on reasonable stuff.


The 'state' machine is a successful criminal organisation.
The bigger the machine gets, the more oppressive and overbearing it becomes.


One day that will be how things are done 🙂


I figured how to avoid property and income tax without much trouble but sales tax is a bit trickier.  Best I can come up with is patronizing non coorperare, decentralized, local businesses. E.g. get your growler filled up at the brewery run by a non-statist rather than buy miller lite from the 7-11.(do as I say not as I do)


After the cataclysm, taxes will be voluntary again.


Onward 🫡

Onward 🫡


If you agree to pay taxes they are not stolen from you


You can make it up as much as you want and fool yourself, but it's not like that, a robbery is like that, you have no alternative, so no matter how much you give your consent, it's still a robbery.


Inflation is theft, taxation is extortion.


I get where you're coming from but, nah

it's more like :

I realize institutionalized robbery is more condusive to wealth creation than highway robbery and wanton violence.

But if it comes down to institutionalized robbery, i'd rather it be less than more and I'd rather it be used to protect wealth creation rather than destroy it.


Is anyone in favor of NOT paying taxes because of the way they are used, because the money is robbed from you, and because they are too high?

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One of the things I love about Nostr is that language isn't constantly distorted.

What you show here is an example of that

This is cool because we can discuss as true mature people


So you believe there are no people that wouldn’t pay taxes voluntarily?


No, it's theft. It stays theft. Why?

Because you can not remove your consent. If you could. I would agree.

But in case you stop agreeing they will kidnapped you and abuse you physically.

Stop lying to yourself. Most of us have been there. Convenient lies over harsh truths is just too sweet sometimes to resist. But it won't get you anywhere in life.


That's not the question. There certainly would be people voluntarily paying something. I do this all the time when I donate to certain projects.

But you are not voluntarily paying taxes. That's a lie to stomach the massive abuse going on for millennia against the integrity of body and soul of individuals. It's a massive trauma that a part of you shields you from.


“I am in favor of paying taxes, what I don't agree with is the way they are used.”

Typical NPC phrase.

Paying taxes is stealing from you.

Translated:
“I'm in favor of being robbed, what I don't agree with is the way my stolen money is used.”

Another very good phrase:

“I'm in favor of taxes, but I think we pay too much, they should lower them.”

Translated:
“I am in favor of being robbed, but I think we should be robbed less”.

Hey if you want to be robbed fine, that's your problem, but the real problem is that in this shitty system called democracy, you decide for me.

#Bitcoin


I think you didn’t understand what I said.


Yea seriously keep your weirdo masochistic domantrix fetishes to yourself and let me build wealth for my family.


And I guess you don't understand what an agreement means.

If you can't leave an abusive relationship, the next best thing to do is agree with it to not feel the pain.


I’m not talking about agreeing because I don’t have any other choice. I’m talking about actually agreeing.


Now I understand.

You agree with yourself and some other gang members to extort and coerce me against my will. I call this abuse and a criminal offence.

Thanks to Bitcoin and even more so Monero you don't have power over me.

Mind your own business.


Totally Radical! 🏄♂🌴

Totally Radical! 🏄♂🌴


What is your solution?


Circular economy and Bitcoin, creating a parallel economy.


Are the residents of this parallel economy forced to live in a separate area from society without existing infrastructure, public institutions or defense?


They take advantage of infrastructure in the same way that the state takes advantage of you.


So your solution is freeloading?


Like when the power company and the state freeload off of someone who provides all their own services who are told they have to pay anyway because they could use it if they wanted to? 😂

Yep, that happened...


How about the rest of you stop stealing & stop interfering first eh?


Then people may actually start to believe that argument is honest...


I am not convinced either of you have a solution.


solution is in the process/tradeoffs


How exactly do you think society would work without taxes?