Comment below if you want me to review your relay lists. I have a couple hours to spare.


:purple-heart:


Mine


Si vas a mi perfil puedes verlo? Avísame si te parece bien como lo tengo


free labour? why not


Relay doctor 👀 we need an AI for this :)


Yessir


Please do.
Primal.

Screenshot or no?


Hit the Default button o SEARCH to add a few relays. Otherwise @ tagging will suck.


Vote Orange 🧡

Vote Orange 🧡


I'll take all the help I can get.


Primal doesn't allow you to setup your inbox/outbox I think, so go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.


Relay noob here, please help.


Ya, Primal doesn't differentiate the different types of relays the way Amethyst does.


I have had time to figure work on this so your recommendations would be rewarded with a zap.


already reviewed mine 🫂😂


Comment

🫡


I'd appreciate an official Vitor Pamplona review of my relays!


Yes 🫂☝


I could always use guidance in my NOSTR quest. Then 1 tor relay is mine.


Delete these from inbox/outbox. They don't even connect. They are either wrong or gone.
relay.nostriches.org
nostr.sovrgn.co.za
offchain.pub


Yes, here, please.
😃


ッ


Onward 🫡

Onward 🫡


Add relay.primal.net and nostr.mom to your general relay list. You can turn off the Global icon in that list for these two items.


Vitor-sama, please take a look at my list 🙇♂


I do


I've got no idea ŵhat mine looks like


Inbox/Outbox is good.

Add: auth.nostr1.com and nos.lol to your Private Inbox/DM list.

Click DEFAULT on SEARCH to add search relays.


All good. Add relay.primal.net to your General list


Please take a look. I see posts i made through Amethyst, but not on satellite and the opposite.


Oh gosh... do we get graded on this? 😁


Are you on primal or amethyst? You have way too many inbox/outbox relays. If you are on Primal go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.


Thank you Vitor 😎👌


Sure


Thank you , I’m on primal. I’m going to try it out .


You don't have any inbox/outbox relays. You should add nos.lol and maybe relay.damus.io there


Way too many inbox outbox relays. Just pick 3 that you are SURE have your posts.

If you are on Primal go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.


Wtf! Is there still time?


Comment below if you want me to review your relay lists. I have a couple hours to spare.


Way too many inbox/outbox. Just pick the 3 that you are absolutely sure keep your posts for OUTBOX and free ones like nos.lol, nostr.mom to receive your Public INBOX.

You also don't have Search relays setup. Which means @ tagging on Amethyst will not work well.  Click the Default button to add our recommendations.


Please, review my list


Great post 🫡

Great post 🫡


I've tried to take your advice but an expert eye would be appreciated. Cheers🍻.


Remove 1 or two from your OutBox/Inbox lists.

If you are on Amethyst, click the Default button on the SEARCH relays to set up our recommendations.

Add to General Relay Section:
- relay.damus.io
- nos.lol
- nostr.wine (download only)


If you fail, you get banned from Nostr.

All the best 🫂


Do me! Do me!


All good, just remove purplepages.es from your inbox and outbox. That relay doesn't store your posts.


I think I am not using relays correctly. Need suggestions.


Yes, please. You'll have a decent laugh.


I know this isn’t the kind of free labour you volunteered for, but would you consider updating Amethyst to ignore all but the latest kind 10002 events (ordered by created_at DESC)?

Here’s my Citrine event counter. I fully reset it less than two days ago:

https://image.nostr.build/e89287ce86f7405da342cfc93d22fd81434f536cbdbbb5b7a81a76f457774c0e.jpg

Pretty please, with a cherry on top? You’d be my favourite Nostr client dev in the whole wide world!


Are you on primal?

You have way too many inbox/outbox relays. Go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.


Looks great assuming you pay for nostr.wine.

Go to the list, on the SEARCH relays hit the Default button to get @ tagging working better.


Yep. I pay for Wine, both the relay and irl😬😂. Thanks for checking it over🫡.


yas do me next!!!


pretty please.


Hit me!


Thanks. I primarily use Damus and it doesn’t have any of these things but now I’ve configured Amethyst for when I do use it.


You shouldn’t have to think about it


Public Outbox is good.

PUBLIC Inbox is bad. Delete nostr.wine and auth.nostr1.com and add nos.lol and nostr.mom.

Private inbox is good.

SEARCH relays are bad. Hit the default button to reset from our recommendations.


You should check out Victor's relay guide.
https://njump.me/naddr1qq9hyetvv9uj6um9w36hqq3qgcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqxpqqqp65wjvcq4q


Remove filter.nostr.wine from Outbox and nostr.wine from inbox.

If you are paying for nostr.wine, add it to the OUTBOX.

Add nos.lol to public inbox.


Hi!


🙋♂ I’m new to #NOSTR .. this might be helpful!


Are you on primal or amethyst? You have way too many inbox/outbox relays. If you are on Primal go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.


Just keep the General Relay list on Amethyst as is. Damus will use that part.


I would love to know I'm not doing something dumb with my profile


Comment below if you want me to review your relay lists. I have a couple hours to spare.


I would love that ✍


Remove you.nostr1.com from your DM Relay list.

Add nos.lol and nostr.mom to your Outbox AND Inbox lists.


Help with nostr:nprofile1qqswc88p8vrcpt6mrapvsrrdj3udus3v23dufee4tla29c4sj0k3zrgpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhslgz2hz when we setup new plebs, they copy the relays. nostr:nprofile1qqsprvt8ee6lksaphkj324fpgju2scqhvyy4ngaaxvk7t3esh04f7wcppamhxue69uhkumewwd68ytnrwgqs6amnwvaz7tmwdaejumr0dsq36amnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3dwp6kytnhv4kxcmmjv3jhytnwv46qf6czr7


Your Public Inbox and Public Outbox are very bad. Delete the one that is there today and add:

nos.lol , nostr.mom and relay.nostr.bg on PUBLIC OUTBOX and PUBLIC INBOX.


Yes, I'm certain I'm doing something wrong.
Seems like something a explanation video would help fix for a lot of us


I dont understand... Why not?


I would appreciate a setup recommendation or general guidelines. Still unsure what is good and what isn’t.


Remove snort's relay from your INBOX.

If you are paying for Snort's relay, move it to the OUTBOX.


I use multiple clients but mostly nostrudel, primal and amethyst.


Yes, primal and Damus. Should I do it for every app I use?

Thanks for the help


Tell me what could be better 👀


Thanks, appreciate it


How about mine?


Way too many inbox/Outbox.

Pick 3 Outbox relays that you know have ALL your posts. Or pick the 3 that youi know will not delete your stiff.

Pick 3 Inbox relays that are free so any one can write for you.

They can be the same. But Outbox can be paid, inbox must be free (otherwise you don't get notifications).


Truly appreciate your help/review nostr:nprofile1qqsyvrp9u6p0mfur9dfdru3d853tx9mdjuhkphxuxgfwmryja7zsvhqppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qythwumn8ghj7anfw3hhytnwdaehgu339e3k7mf0qyghwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnhd9hx2tch2deau! 🙏


Cheers and thanks a ton!


Really good. No need to change anything.

You are the first that I didn't need to adjust.


Woohoo!


Are you paying for relay.snort.social? If not, remove it from your Public Outbox and Inbox lists. The rest is great.


Way too many Outbox and Inbox relays. Pick just 3. nos.lol, nostr.mom, relay.damus.io look good for both.

If you are paying for any relay, it goes to Outbox.

The rest seems fine.


Pretty please... 🙂


I'd appreciate some expert advice - I have only a midwit understanding of nostr realys


Are you on primal or amethyst? You have way too many inbox/outbox relays. If you are on Primal go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.


Using Damus and Ditto.


Too many inbox/Outbox.

Are you on primal or amethyst? You have way too many inbox/outbox relays. If you are on Primal go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.


Remove nostr.wine from inbox

Remove purplepages.es from Outbox.

Click Default on the Search List's button to make @ tagging work better.


I would love it if you had a second


because if you have to nostr fails for everyone except techies


Looks all good. I wouldn't use relay.nostr.band as Outbox, but it's up to you.


Delete from outbox/inbox.
 purplepages
 cheeserobot.org
 tunestr.io
 yuhr.org

Hit the Search list's button to make @ tagging work better


All good. I would go to the recommended section and add utxo and mostr's relay to the general section (just press the button).


Yes please 🤙


🙏🏻 thanks


127 relays??? WTF?

Seriously, the client is only connecting to the first 30 relays.. The rest is just consuming your data plan.

Pick 3 for inbox and Outbox. Leave aobut 20 on the General list.

If you want delete all the General List and add relays from the Recommended section back into  it. The recommendations come from your Follows.


Are you paying for filter.nostr.wine?

I would not use that as Inbox.

Try subscribing to nostr.wine and then adding that one to Outbox.


If you are paying for nostr.wine, keep that one on Outbox and choose another 2.

Pick three free relays for the Public Inbox.

The rest looks fine.


I wouldn't use citrine for Search. I would just use the default items there.

If you want DM notifications directly on amethyst, add nos.lol to your Private Inbox. This makes your DMs visible to others.


Yes paid for that one. Would just having the Haven inbox suffice?


Add nos.lol, nostr.mom and relay.damus.io to your PUBLIC OUTBOX and PUBLIC INBOX.

The rest is good.


Remove Eden from inbox. And make sure you are paying for Snort's relay in the Outbox.


So where should filter.nostr.wine go if it's not in outbox? I noticed in the article you reposted earlier that it's a terrible idea to put this is in inbox too 🤔


Also, you're doing gods work. Thanks! 🎉


I would add another one for redundancy, like nos.lol


Public Inbox is wrong. Delete all of them and add nos.lol, nostr.mom and maybe relay.damus.io

Remove purple pages and filter.nostr.wine from the Search relays. Click the Default button to add the other two relays with search available. This improves @ tagging


Looks good, just remove cellar from Public Inbox


I'm confused. Why would I want my private DMs visible to others? Isn't the whole point to have relays that allow anyone to write, but require user authentication to read?


Only if you want DM notifications. Your DMs are now so private that even our Push Notification server cannot see them. So, if you want them, you need an opening, but everyone else will also see your events.


Thanks Vitor. Updated!


Inbox, Outbox and Search are wrong. Make sure there are no spaces in these addresses (yours have lots of spaces)

On Inbox and Outbox, add:
- nos.lol
- nostr.mom
- relay.damus.io

For private inbox/DM, add:
- nos.lol
- auth.nostr1.com

On Search, hit the default button.


I disabled Amethyst's notifications because I'm using Pokey which is hooked to my private inbox relays. I haven't had any DMs since I setup Pokey, but I'm assuming that it will be able to deliver DM notifications. Could you send me a DM to test that?


I don't know if Pokey is already AUTHing with your Amber key. That will be required to see your DMs.


You don't have anything setup. If you are on Amethyst...

On Inbox and Outbox, add:
- nos.lol
- nostr.mom
- relay.damus.io

For private inbox/DM, add:
- nos.lol
- auth.nostr1.com

On Search, hit the default button.


I didn't get a Pokey notification for your DM, so I'll add nos.lol as you suggested. Hopefully that will trigger a notification on DM.


General Section only. Other people can't use your filter subscription, so there is no need to put in any of the inbox/Outbox relays.


No, in theory, you only need to know where your posts are going once.


Well damn, that makes so much sense. Thank you!


Maybe a future version of Pokey will be able to auth via Amber to allow reading the DM relays.


Ok, if you go to Amethyst, you will see 7-8 relays in inbox and Outbox. That's too much.

Select 3 from Outbox trust to keep your posts. This could include paid relays. nostr.wine (if you are paying) is great here.

Select 3 from Inbox that are open to anyone to post. nos.lol and nostr.mom are great here.

For Private Inbox/DM relays add:
- nos.lol
- auth.nostr1.com
- relay.0xchat.com

Hit the Default button for Search to have better @tagging.


Too many inbox/Outbox relays.

Just pick the 3 most important relays for you in each.


Are you on primal or amethyst? You have way too many inbox/outbox relays. If you are on Primal go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.


Opa! 👋🏻


It looks all good. I would add more relays to you general section to make sure you are not missing posts from your follows.

Just add a few (press the add button) from the recommended section below General.


Are you paying for nostr.wine? If so, that goes in the Outbox. Remove from Inbox.

I would keep 3 other relays in Inbox and Outbox and delete the rest. Just pick the most important to you.

Click the Default button on Search to add search relays and make @ tagging work better.


Are you on Amethyst?

I would remove a few relays from Inbox and Outbox to keep just 3 in each.

Click the Default button on Search to get the recommended options.

On PRIVATE INBOX, add:
- relay.0xchat.com
- nos.lol
- auth.nostr1.com


Are you on primal?

You have way too many inbox/outbox relays. If you are on Primal go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.


I was actually hoping you'd never look there.😀 Promise, I am gonna improve. Thanks ever so much.


You will roast me 🤪


Pick 3 of the 127.


We are def not at that stage yet...

Way too many errors. Way too many relays. Way too many typos. Too many clients adding everything into NIP-65...

Way too many people not knowing where their posts are.


Mostly good. But non of your SEARCH relays provide any search function. Just hit the default button on the top of the section to reset from the recommended ones.


This was a good exercise...

nostr:nprofile1qqsdv8emcke7k3qqaldwv956tstu40ejg663gdsaayuuujs6pknw7jspp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpr3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmqpzfmhxue69uhhqatjwpkx2urpvuhx2uc86mqq0 are you folks just saving all relays people write on Primal to the NIP-65 relays? The NIP-65 list is supposed to be for the public only and 3 max. The relays the app needs to use to function for this user should go somewhere else.
nostr:nevent1qqsgenu6pnp7v7z4a33032u7yyrfq0h03kuyul3drget9et85uemhpgppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qgsyvrp9u6p0mfur9dfdru3d853tx9mdjuhkphxuxgfwmryja7zsvhqrqsqqqqqpr6nh0q


If ya got time still.


I probably have more than I need, but picking them for each purpose I don't get yet


Are you paying for nostr.wine? If so that goes in the Outbox only and not the Inbox.

Press the default button to get the Search Relays back.

Your Private Inbox relay is written wrong. Delete and add: relay.0xchat.com


Thanks!


Looks good. I would delete 1-3 from both inbox and Outbox lists. You can move them to the General relay list if they are not there already. Just keep the ones you truly trust to keep your posts safe and available.


Very good. I would add nos.lol to your DM relays if you want to receive notifications. Just be mindful that adding nos.lol also exposes your DM event to everyone else.


You are not using Amethyst yet right? If so, that's ok.


Looks good. I would add the first 2 Recommended relays in the end of the screen (utxo, nos.lol) to your General list (just press the add button).


Very good. I would try to reduce the list of Inbox and Outbox to 3 max. So, just pick the most trusted ones from your list.

You can add the others back to the General List if  they are not already there.


That would be great


Comment below if you want me to review your relay lists. I have a couple hours to spare.


Please!


Will do and thank you for your time ☺


How about my list?


I am not able to use your client, I do appreciate your insights thank you Vitor


Sorry, I'm on Amethyst.


Recommendations

On Inbox and Outbox, add:
- nos.lol
- nostr.mom
- relay.damus.io

For private inbox/DM, add:
- nos.lol
- relay.0xchat.com
- auth.nostr1.com

On Search, hit the default button.


Heeelllpppp


Would love some insight.


Thanks


A video/document would be significantly more valuable of your time that the community could all reference. But appreciative of your offer to the community none the less! 👍


Done, thank you so much!


Removed the relays as advised. But I noticed I lost 10 followers. Before the removal I had 224. Is that normal?


Me 😁😁


Surprise me


Check mine!


Onward 🫡

Onward 🫡


Yes please


Idiot believe we r on snort relay I will check and do as said


my list sucks I already know


Please


Vitor previously published a guide on how to properly setup your relays. Check it out!
https://njump.me/naddr1qq9hyetvv9uj6um9w36hqq3qgcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqxpqqqp65wjvcq4q


That should say "Vitor",  not Victor. Stupid autocorrect. Sorry, Vitor!


please


Why 3? What are you aiming/optimizing for?


Okay.
Thank you.
😃


Yes


I am on Amethyst, Damus and Snort


Where can I read up on what's an "inbox" or "outbox" relay?


ok but why ?  what's the problem with having more or less or some particular relays?


Please do


Smaller data usage. The more you have, the more your followers suffer to find your posts.


GM Nostr 👋

Read through Vitor's suggestions, you'll learn a lot.

An optimized relay list is a game changer.

nostr:nevent1qqsgenu6pnp7v7z4a33032u7yyrfq0h03kuyul3drget9et85uemhpgpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7q3qgcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqxpqqqqqqze6mu2k


Bless you Vitor! Mine probably need trimmitng... you know I'm on Amethyst, and I do pay for wine


Interested for me and nostr:npub1p9kqh64vqjkgw2ngkvssd0lvvgvwuwfcd7082rdwl0aazxynqk4qvutzlw


Sim! Estou no primal!


yes


Yeah I use amethyst


feels like a tarot reading
please do


Yes please.

Nostr / Amethyst is just one of the four¹ social media that I follow and this whole relay thing is just way too confusing.

Especially since all the changes recently.

¹ Bluesky, Farcaster, Mastodon and Nostr


Onward 🫡

Onward 🫡


Umm sure…

What is the benefit of such review?


Oooh, Me me me me me!

The only one I'm paying for on my relay list is Wine.

Still feels like 1 person maximum ever sees my posts.  😢


Sure. thx 💜


Coffee on me ☕

Coffee on me ☕


Comment below if you want me to review your relay lists. I have a couple hours to spare.


Eu quero, quero não, necessito 🤣


Relay list:
the algo
everything else


Okay, if inbox relays should be free, how do I keep a copy of my DMs if the relays I run I charge a fee to use so I don't get spammed? This rule means if I add my relays to my DMs, then I don't get notifications?


do me next.


Public and Private Inboxes are different but both should offer a way for anyone else that is sending you a DM or a reply to post in there. So, if the relay you are using requires payment to post, you will never see any DMs or replies.

PUBLIC INBOX: You will receive a copy from clients that operate in the Outbox model. Primal, Damus and, to some extent, Amethyst do not send it yet. But they will soon. Coracle, for instance, will sends it there.

PRIVATE INBOX: Amethyst, 0xchat and Coracle do send to your Private Inbox relays.

inbox.nostr.wine allows you to pay to receive DMs from everyone else. So, having to pay here is not an issue because you are paying for the others.

Each relay is different.


? I did yours yesterday


Me too exactly


Bookmarked and zapped. I'll be coming back to read this multiple times 🥴🤔🙂


yes


How can I check which relay has all my posts?