Some people like to say 'we are winning. What I want to know, what exactly are we winning? More laws? More regulations? More wars? More taxes? Less freedom? More inflation? More surveillance? A food supply that amounts to packaged poisons? Poisoned air? Poisoned water? So someone please explain to me where and how, humanity as a whole, is winning, and what we are winning, and in what manner the human condition is improving?
#breakthestate #anarchy #randomthought


I always believed we were talking about Separation of Money & State


how is talking about something winning? Money and state are not separated and never will be so long as the state exists


Okay take a breath.
You said you wanted to know what people were talking about when they said we’re winning. I believe we’re winning in the battle to Separate Money and State. #Bitcoin cannot be controlled by the state and is the ultimate chess play. We haven’t won, but we are winning. You can talk about status of victory before victory. If a sporting event was 100-0 with 3 seconds left on the clock, would you be this upset about someone saying, “We’re winning”?


And none of that bullshit affects anyone on a Bitcoin standard.  Slaves are going to slave…you cant help “the world”, save your family and rebuild from the ashes.


I have no idea how Nostr works but this gentleman is correct.


and that is the exact selfish shit that will keep us under tyranny forever. I didnt ask how you are winning.Nobody is winning shit, and your bitcoin doesnt fix agents kicking in your door.


hahahaha, you are fucking delusional. Central banks still exist. But, obviously all you care about is YOU winning, not anyone else. And this is exactly why we all will always be slaves to the state. All you fucking care about is NGU, and fuck anyone else who suffers


At best we can hope they don't want escalation to a conflict where hundreds of millions are killed, but "they" do appear to get whatever it is they want.

But don't worry, Elon and Trump will save everyone. Just sit back and let these heroes take care of business for us.


If Bitcoin cannot be used for everyday transacting around the world, then it will fall short of that separation, since we will all still be dependent on banks to facilitate payments, and all the regulations that come with that.


Not everyone wants to be unplugged from the Matrix.  Wasting time worrying about that fact doesn’t help anybody.

Some people are going to rot in prison, and that sucks.  Make arrangements to make that as costly and/or dangerous for the government mafia as possible.

Live in defeatist fear, or know you are already dead.  What do they get for kicking my door in?  Nothing.  How much will it cost?  More than that.

Hopefully I will be somewhere else, more accomidative, before that happens.


Starving the beast is the only way to kill it.  If you don’t understand that, study harder.


how about you don't fucking assume shit about me you fuck. Just cuz you read a couple bitcoin books in recent years dont mean shit and since all you care about is your NGU, you are no different than the 'elite' who only care about NGU


so fuck em then? Ok, yea, you're a fucking piece of shit. If one is enslaved we are all enslaved, but who cares about that so long as NGU


Now, who is assuming things?
I told you my solution…people with money fly the plantation.  Government money collapses, no more government.

Tell me your solution.  I’m here to learn bro, we are on the same side.  Educate me.


Regulations will be designed as a service rather than a constraint. They will probably be designed and implemented by private parties rather than governments or large state-aligned institutions.

By appreciating faster than every other money out there, bitcoin will make onerous, unnecessary regulations too costly to enforce.

This is the subtle but critically important point and why NGU is all that matters. NGU aligns the incentives of consenting parties.


Ngu is all that matters to the monied elite. Neither you nor them care about others suffering.


I care about NGU the least. It doesn't address the issue with payments, and Bitcoin seems to be getting further away from that.

I'm not familiar with the world in which bankers would allow private parties to set monetary policy. I mean it sounds great, but as long as they can continue to exercise control, the only way they're letting go of that is with a war, which as history shows us, they have no problem with. Would you go quietly if you were in their position?

It's only the peasant killing each other for the their interests. 😂


I use #Bitcoin all the time for payments. Zaps or Strike lightning option. Easy breezy.


Every social issue we’ve seen play out since covid is them fighting bitcoin and our freedom. They can’t fight it directly because of Streissand Effect.

But if you look at EVERYTHING going on in our world through the lens of their money is broken, has competition they can’t eliminate, and they know they’re losing it all makes sense.

Greed is good. It aligns incentives. It funds projects, bring new entrants into the ecosystem, etc.

NGU is literally all that matters. Everything good comes from people looking out for their own best interests and the interests and those whom they love and care about.

NGU for the win!


You embody everything wrong with the btc community. Like I said, you clearly do not give a single fuck about anyone or anything but yourself and your ngu.


Well, as long as you have it all figured out that's all that matters? Thanks for proving my point


When they bring back covid tyranny, which is being put back in place as we speak, what the fuck is NGU gonna do? When forced injections become a thing, and they will, what the fuck is NGU gonna do? And when your door is kicked in over self-custody, and that will happen one day, what the fuck is NGU gonna do? NgU fixes exactly nothing.


You don’t use zaps?


Owning and using bitcoin is not the same as being a cult member who only cares about ngu.


Agree. MoE is critical to adoption; however, the tools are in place. They are easier to use than a credit card and Apple Pay. So we just need to do it, I am. My comment was responding to: „If Bitcoin cannot be used for everyday transacting around the world“. It can. It is. It’s easy. The rest is up to us.


Ah, hard to tell who is replying to what sometimes on here.🤘


NGU will keep them from being able to afford kicking down doors…they won’t be able to pay enough people to kick down the doors.

I can tell you’re frustrated about something. Truly sorry you’re angry about it. Hope things get better soon.


Anyone can create an invoice and accept #Bitcoin


Whoa. You actually seem delusional. I don’t care only about me winning, what even led you to believe that? And ngu? Where are you seeing this?
You’re not contributing to any meaningful change. You’re just yelling noise and calling names into the void for likes while providing zero value. Have fun with your “engagement”


wow, you are seriously fucking stupid. They can print at will. They have all the money they need. And the dollar is going NOWHERE. Nearly all global debt is in dollars. Until all that debt is gone, and no more dollar based debt added, the dollar will exist because there will be demand for it to pay debt. And yes I am frustrated. People like you are everything wrong with humanity. And you are one of those who btc changed into a fucking brainwashed piece of trash who cares about nothing but ngu.


if ngu isnt your biggest or only concern, then what the fuck you arguing for then? My post has nothing to do with you then


You speak nonsense.


I guess we should just give up y’all, governments are gods.   Game over 🤣🤣🤣


then move the fuck on. Nobody asked your fucking opinion anyway


clearly you are too fucking stupid to understand my point. Fuck off and move on. You are a waste of time.


You literally asked everyone’s opinion! 😂😂😂

Dude, you know this is all in public right? Your idiocracy and nonsensical comments that circle around and around avoiding the answers everyone is giving you, everyone will see this forever.

Just stop man, before you delete your nsec, just stop.

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I told you how to destroy the state.  Once you know, no reason to be so afraid.  You are staring at the problem instead of the solution.  Let go of your ego a little bit and you could learn something that helps you, and everyone else.  Or you can try to defend your ego and remain a poor slave.


its was rhetorical you fucking moron There is no answer because humanity is not winning. The key part was humanity as a whole, not you and your selfishness. So tell me, how exactly is humanity as a whole and the over all human condition in any sense winning? I know all you care about is you, so don't even waste your time because you have made it clear you do not give a fuck about others. NGU is ll that matters apparently


seriously, you are a fucking clown who doesnt know shit. Stop wasting my fucking time


Marxists that can’t defend their ideas, attack the person, instead of the idea.  Vote harder, I guess, and good luck 🍀


oh so Im a marxist now? Yea, you are truly fucking stupid and brainwashed. You are the typical statist sheep who thinks anyone who thinks differently must be this or that.


I been defending my point. You're too fucking stupid to understand it.


No, I said nothing of the sort.  You are using the same technique of someone who doesn’t have a rational argument (such as marxists): name calling and emotional.

Private, free market money, destroys fiat dogshit, which collapses governments.   Governments are censoring and jailing people who want freedom.  That wouldn’t happen unless we are winning, and they are scared shitless.

You don’t see that as winning, fine with me.  Just hoped you could learn something is all.

You can’t drag 8 billion sheeple through the fence.  Most of them don’t want to be free - it’s too scary.  It will take generations for that shift.  In the mean time, I don’t need to stay on the tax farm.  And I don’t feel bad about it, it’s not selfish, it’s what a man should do for his family.


“When they bring back Covid tyranny/forced injections…” sorry but that isn’t your problem.  I mean if you want to fight back like Uncle Ted, by all means, go for it.  Sheep on the farm are going to get slaughtered…that’s just nature.  Do what you can, but you can’t fight the wind, brother.


You're exact words. Marxist, vote harder. You are brainwashed  and have zero idea what marxism is if you think any of this conversation impies Im a marxist or a voter. Move on, you just keep proving me right.

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Covid tyranny is everyone's problem. But you're winning so who cares about anyone else.


Hahaha. Not today. Yet


My first question is always "who's :we:?"


Yea that's a good way to look at it too. Most people's winning would not be my idea of it.