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 it's marketing lol 
 Sent from my iPhone 
 no 
 yes it is, the message clearly is inviting people to use the hivechat thing 
 stop trolling. it was for testnet and its already gone. 
 you stay so sure we are wrong and you are right to force users to publish a note i'll stay right the fuck away from it thanks 
 That’s not marketing. That’s the process of an event being signed with a translation for idiots like me. That’s basically the gist of what’s happening when you sign an event with your extension to sign in.. in a cute way 
 No that’s different 
 But I mentioned I’m an idiot already, so that’s fine. 

It would be cool if when you’re using an extension though…if it explained what that means for the dum dums like me that because the first time I “signed an event”, I was like “uh oh, why is there code on my screen asking me to hit sign?” 
 when you sign an event it proves you wrote it

it's instead of you logging into a server and uploading it 

when people download it, the server is like "trust me bro, it was her" 
 this is where that whole concept of "avatar" comes from - because there is a disconnection between the person and their data

the signatures disintermediate, because they prove the data was created by you, as nobody else has the nsec to sign with 
 Yeah. I thought I knew what y’all were talking about for a second and quickly learned I was wrong. 

Oh well 🤷‍♀️ happens all the time.

I still don’t think it’s that big of a deal especially since she was unsure of it and is open to changing it 😂 the app is so killer, it’s an easy fix 
 yeah, just kinda stupid to not put a checkbox in the stupid interface 
 I think the 1000 of smart decisions she made creating that masterpiece outweighs the 1 minor mistake, she admitted she was unsure about and plans to change based on feedback. 

She’s a super talented developer, just new to nostr development. 
 idk what kind of dev she was doing before but if it didn't cross her mind that publishing an event and demanding a signature as a condition of entering an app isn't coercive then, oh well, what can i say

no, she obviously doesn't have the cultural mindset of freedom tech

but good she is interested in acquiring it

everyone makes mistakes, what matters is that we adjust our future actions based on our lessons 
 Yeah, but…we are gonna to continue to have new devs coming onto nostr to help build and that’s essential. 

If the intention is pure, I don’t think a mistake such as this (especially if admitted and quickly adjusted) warrants the tone of the multiple responses.

Especially considering…unlike many, she did all of this for free and it has already proven itself incredibly useful. 

These are my opinions (obviously), but I really enjoy this app and know her pretty well now so I felt compelled to share 
 it's just an absolutely opposite thing to freedom tech

she needs to learn don't pander 
 Yeah I already got that sentiment from all y’all. @Puzzito did the same thing when he was trying something and everyone jumped down his throat too. 

People assumed he deliberately did it and got all pissed, while he was in the background like “oh shit, I didn’t mean to do it like that” and scrambling to fix it. Reality was, he had an idea for a cool feature he thought people would like, but didn’t know how to implement it correctly. 

Now he figured it out and what he made is pretty damn cool.

I’m pretty sure, she has already learned considering the multiple regurgitations of the same idea 

🪦🐴 
 come on

if i bump you when you are doing some fine detail work

are you pissed at me?

there. 
 Hahahaha it depends. 
 if it was hella important only your love object can get that

so, she made a big mistake, and i'm not imputing intent, it's actually a little picture of how miserable software development is these days that this kind of "tell everyone function" is COERCIVE

it happens, don't expect to be given praise for missing something

this is how it is in software, if your code isn't exact, and fails to do what people expect, pile-in

it's rough, you need the motivation to prove you are better, don't take that away from her 
 look, my work of the first half of 2024 and with a whole month me doing my darnedest to catch the bug couldn't find it

so i made this thing, spent 6 months on it, it is useless

how do you think i feel right now about that?

yes, been 7 weeks trying to do what i think i need to do to fix it

because of the pre-shame

if i'd actually put taht out and someone goes "hey, this thing is broken" i would have been shame

and even, someone claimed to be running my code

and they didn't tell me it was broken, and i knew it was broken because i had been testing it constantly for months

idk what to say

calm your little heart but the wrong answer is gonna ket people killed 
 Well I didn’t sign any kind of tough love contract. So if y’all put out a project I like, with a one little flaw, I am gonna continue to point out the strengths. https://i.nostr.build/9CrDwO2vQeg6VzP7.gif  
 thankfully there will be someone who will file a faithful actual bug report eh nostr:nprofile1qydhwumn8ghj7argv4nx7un9wd6zumn0wd68yvfwvdhk6tcprpmhxue69uhkv6tvw3jhytnwdaehgu3wwa5kuef0qyw8wumn8ghj7argv43kjarpv3jkctnwdaehgu339e3k7mf0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcqyrwkvn27gqtyxw5v660sqkhpfqyqgdgh3x6emed0qcnkmejkx0f3jstwprn  wot? 
 Well I don’t like the social environment of software one bit 😂

Idk how she does it. 
 she is motivated by being right, and making it work 
 Hey man, I just like going back and forth with you. 

You know how to continue the debate without getting disrespectful, which is admirable these days 😂 
 yeah, i'm just trying to impart information

the hard headed go fuck yourself mindset of engineering is being attacked from all directions in these times

and without that mindset, a society will have disaster and almost nobody will survive

the jews that said "hey, wait a sec, i didn't commit usury, why is adolf saying this" and that led to them deciding to move to america

the rest of them, were not thinking

thinking hurts at first, but afterwards, it becomes a sport

i wish i was as much like this about physical activity as i am about thinking, but i push myself... i am getting better, it's just complicated to balance everything lol! 
 It’s hard for me. Sometimes I still get hard-headed and have that GFY attitude. That’s why I like these exchanges with you 😂 it’s good practice on decorum. 

I haven’t been able to balance physical activity either, but I’m still pre-op 
 yeah, this diabeetus really spun me ... about 3 years it's been getting worse and worse and i really am actually getting the better of it now

i have vague memories of knowing someone with a similar problem as you have right now, i hope you get it sorted... ah yes, i remember now who had the problem, one of my aunties, wow i hadn't even thought about her in such a long time... first kid she had had brain damage from asphyxiation due to a difficult delivery (i think they went to C-section too late) and poor boy had some ... i think it was cerebral palsy

yeah reminds me my mother they gave her too many opiates of some kind and i came out blue, but not excessively abnormal and certainly it didn't mess up my intelligence but that's not where i lack lol 
 Diabetes if roughhhh with the lifestyle changes 

Hahahaha. Yeah I’m gonna get surgery next week and don’t believe I will be procreating ever 
 not marketing to you, to everyone else who follows you