btw right leaning people i know (e.g. pro gamblers) groan when they see nate silver's name

I am more impartial on it.  I've followed that site for a while.  Could not really evaluate their methodology.

BUT on the night of 2016 elections, which I did follow all markets, including prediction and 538, their models fell apart, and were just completely wrong.  Pro dem in that case.  So mathematically I think they have some problems. 

 Nate Silver sold 538 and doesn’t work there any more. The 538 site is run by a team at ESPN. 

Plenty on the left aren’t happy with him either btw. But it doesn’t matter when referring to 538 today because he’s no longer involved.  

 Thanks, didnt know that.  ESPN buy a lot of stuff.